too passive with a big draw?

#1 10-26-2005, 01:26 PM

Absolute .10/.25 ($50 NL). Table is very passive. Villain is 28.5/4.76 over 50 hands and only has $11.35.

Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero limps. LP limps. SB donk-raises. BB folds, Hero calls, LP calls.

Flop ($1.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB donk-bets, Hero raises to $1, LP calls $1, donk folds.

Turn ($4) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero bets $2, LP min-raises to $4, Hero calls $2.

River($12) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero checks, LP pushes for $5.85, Hero folds.

#2 10-26-2005, 01:36 PM

In a 10 handed game you could fold this one PF and save yourself the trouble.
Clear fold on the flop.

theweatherman · #3 10-26-2005, 02:01 PM

how much is the sb's donk raises (even though hes opening the pot) and donk bets (even though he raised pf) and what the hell is a donk fold?

This is not playing a draw, this is fishing, yes you did pick up a decent drawing hand on the turn but you stand to win a small pot if you hit. This also assumes you are not beat all ready to a boat, or are drawing to the second best flush

I agree with the other reponse, fold pf in UTG + 1

#4 10-26-2005, 02:53 PM

fold on the flop? are you kidding? a flush draw and a backdoor straightdraw with two overs?

#5 10-26-2005, 02:56 PM

donk raise is minimum bet .25c in both instances. a donk folding is a donk folding. I understand you're eager to get your flamethrower out but cmon man use your head.

#6 10-26-2005, 02:58 PM

Damn edit button is intermittent.

Donk bet .25c on the flop. Hero raises to $1. LP calls, donk folds.

theweatherman · #7 10-26-2005, 03:07 PM

just write min raise. a donk bet is a player betting out in front of the pf raiser, not min raising.

hen a player min raises, its called min raising.

#8 10-26-2005, 03:40 PM

I really don't mind just callling the donk bet. I don't mind the guy behind me coming along for the ride. And he's giving you terrific odds to draw. Plus your hand isn't as strong as it might seem to you, because there is that pair on the board. That means a couple things: 1. your overcards may or may not be good, and 2. you could hit your draw and still have to fold the hand/lose to a boat. So why not just take the nearly free turn and see what happens? And besides if you raise and the donk has the trips, you're just reopening the betting and he could very well bet you out of this hand.

#9 10-26-2005, 04:12 PM

Out of position. No hand, just some shaky draws. I fold. Maybe I am weak-tight.

phage · #10 10-26-2005, 04:19 PM

How big was your stack?