AQs -- a standard 3/6 hand?

Nick C · #1 06-10-2005, 05:39 AM

MP2 is not a standard 3/6 player at all, but I was happy to have him at the table. He's 74/0/0.3 after 81 hands and -- so far, anyway -- he'd been very predictable. If he bets, you better have something! I don't recall any checkraises from him.

I could give you numbers for BB, but, to be honest, the only real read I had on him at the time is that he seemed kind of tight.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB 3-bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

River: (6.16 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets . . .

Okay, let's stop here. What do I do now?

Petteri · #2 06-10-2005, 05:44 AM

Clear raise.

private joker · #3 06-10-2005, 05:45 AM

I'd raise. Don't worry about getting an overcall from BB. If the MP 3-bets you, I'd consider capping because you won't have to face a 5-bet. The nut flush is a pretty good hand. If he stuck around with 55, god bless him. If he slowplayed KT, god bless him again. Otherwise, you're good.

Nick C · #4 06-10-2005, 06:21 AM

All right, I'm impatient sometimes. And I did raise. So let's get to the part of the hand that most interests me:

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB 3-bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

River: (6.16 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets,
MP2 caps . . .

Now what do I do?

ipp147 · #5 06-10-2005, 06:25 AM

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All right, I'm impatient sometimes. And I did raise. So let's get to the part of the hand that most interests me:

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB 3-bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

River: (6.16 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets,
MP2 caps . . .

Now what do I do?

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Hi,

I put the BB on a really weirdly played KK. I can't see what MP2 has other than Kx [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or perhaps a badly played set or T.

I don't think you are ahead enough here to make this call. If MP2 folded instead of capping its an easy call.

Waloonga · #6 06-10-2005, 06:33 AM

I don't agree. The pot is big and the Hero cannot be 100% certain that he is beat. An extra bet at this point is worth the payoff that he may have the best hand. You only need to be best less than 10% for this to pay off at this point. I'd call to make him show his cards.

I agree with the anlysis, KK on the BB and Kx [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the MP-player. Perhaps TT on BB, but it seems a bit too agressive for that.

ipp147 · #7 06-10-2005, 06:51 AM

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I don't agree. The pot is big and the Hero cannot be 100% certain that he is beat. An extra bet at this point is worth the payoff that he may have the best hand. You only need to be best less than 10% for this to pay off at this point. I'd call to make him show his cards.

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The BB is clearly going to call. So there will be 17 BB's at the end. Hero has to call 2.

He has to be best more often than 10% here and not less. To me that river action screams full house for one of those players.

Chairman Wood · #8 06-10-2005, 07:01 AM

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The BB is clearly going to call. So there will be 17 BB's at the end. Hero has to call 2.

He has to be best more often than 10% here and not less. To me that river action screams full house for one of those players.

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Yeah, I did the math wrong too, always forget the people you know are going to call, Thanks. BB has the FH or quads if anyone, other guy hit the bd flush with you.

mmbt0ne · #9 06-10-2005, 07:11 AM

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I don't agree. The pot is big and the Hero cannot be 100% certain that he is beat. An extra bet at this point is worth the payoff that he may have the best hand. You only need to be best less than 10% for this to pay off at this point. I'd call to make him show his cards.

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The BB is clearly going to call. So there will be 17 BB's at the end. Hero has to call 2.

He has to be best more often than 10% here and not less. To me that river action screams full house for one of those players.

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There are only gonna be 16BB on the end. BB is putting in 4, MP2 is putting in 4, and you've already put in 2. Add that to the original 6.16, and that's a 16.16BB pot assuming nothing else is taken out for rake.

I really can't see you winning this hand enough to call the river. Do you think a "74/0/0.3 after 81 hands and -- so far, anyway -- he'd been very predictable" kind of player caps a check-3bet with the non-nut flush on a paired board?

I think we're in really bad shape here, and need to fold.

Petteri · #10 06-10-2005, 06:40 AM

You have nut flush. You are probably beaten but due to big pot you should still call.

If BB calls you got 8-1 odds. I think you win this kind of hand more than 13 % of the time.