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Old 11-08-2005, 12:24 PM
Wintermute Wintermute is offline
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Default Re: PLO8 - First time ever and couldn\'t even show it

I would've raised the flop, and I would've called the turn bet.
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Old 11-08-2005, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: PLO8 - First time ever and couldn\'t even show it

I sort of like this advice since you couldn't be counterfeited.
I usually play O8 limit so I don't really know the possiblities that he could have been bluffing you since you showed weakness by only calling his flop bet.
Also, perhaps he had a set of J's - and if another A came that would have beaten those.
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Old 11-08-2005, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: PLO8 - First time ever and couldn\'t even show it

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I would've raised the flop, and I would've called the turn bet.

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So you would have RE-raised the flop, correct?

My thoughts, I potted preflop and then he pots into me on the flop. I felt he caught more of the flop for the high than me (2pr, set, oe str8 at worst) and I was only on a draw for the low. When the turn brought a blank for me and possible help for him, I accepted the fact that I was on a draw for only 1/2 the pot and mucked it.

Feel free to correct my play but provide details. I admit the flop call may have been weak but I put him on a good hand.
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Old 11-08-2005, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: PLO8 - First time ever and couldn\'t even show it

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I would've raised the flop, and I would've called the turn bet.

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So you would have RE-raised the flop, correct?

My thoughts, I potted preflop and then he pots into me on the flop. I felt he caught more of the flop for the high than me (2pr, set, oe str8 at worst) and I was only on a draw for the low. When the turn brought a blank for me and possible help for him, I accepted the fact that I was on a draw for only 1/2 the pot and mucked it.

Feel free to correct my play but provide details. I admit the flop call may have been weak but I put him on a good hand.

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AA with a nut low draw with counterfit protection and backdoor flush draw is a favorite over every hand you listed except a set. Play with twodimes or some software until you know where you stand against your opponents likely range (yes it is a favorite over 2 pair but very slight). If he doesn't have a set (which I think is very unlikely with a board full of middle cards in a raised pot), you definitely want to keep the lead. I think the flop is a clear raise.
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Old 11-08-2005, 11:17 PM
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AA with a nut low draw with counterfeit protection and two backdoor flush draws worth ~ 4% each is a favorite over every hand you listed except a set.

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The flop is 100% reraise. You're ahead almost all the time in this spot and you should be either getting all in or building a pot for the turn. You have position on him. If he just calls your reraise and your turn card hits (well over half the deck), you want a big pot to get all in vs what is a weaker hand most of the time. If it doesn't and he leads full pot into you, you have an easy fold.
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Old 11-08-2005, 11:22 PM
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I have seen the light. Now I just need to get those cards again, maybe tonight if I'm lucky. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-09-2005, 06:19 AM
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Default Re: PLO8 - First time ever and couldn\'t even show it

He bet the flop; you should have RAISED the flop. If he had a great hand, he might have RE-RAISED. You can't raise before anyone bets, and you can't re-raise before anyone raises.
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