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Old 08-02-2005, 04:58 PM
G Baade G Baade is offline
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Default Whats the play

37 left in 50 buy in tourney. 20 get paid but no real money til final table.

Blinds 400-200

I am UTG 4300 little below average stack
MP1 5200
Button Chip leader with 12075

I limp with 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Mp1 Calls
Button raises 700

I call figuring him for 2 overs. He has raised here last 4 orbits and shown down K 10, J 10, Q 9 suited. He has also folded once in this same scenario when I reraised all in with JJ.

MP1 calls also. He hasn't played hardly at all so this scares me. I figure probably AK, AQ, or PP in the 5 thru 8 range. Last hand I remembered him playing he doubled up with 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in the SB when he hit a set and played it very fast.


Flop comes 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Whats the play???
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Old 08-02-2005, 05:06 PM
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Default Re: Whats the play

Raise PF. I would just push on this flop. You could've also considered limp-reraising with your read on villian
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Old 08-02-2005, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: Whats the play

if you put him on 2 over cards, then you should push all your chips in the pot, if he wants to gamble thats his problem, you can only get the money in with the best hand.

When you just call PF you let MP1 in the hand as well, Lower PPs dont play well aganist multiple opponents, i would raise PF and push if i get raised
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Old 08-02-2005, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: Whats the play

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if you put him on 2 over cards, then you should push all your chips in the pot, if he wants to gamble thats his problem, you can only get the money in with the best hand.[ QUOTE ]





Agreed! But what about that MP guy?
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Old 08-02-2005, 05:25 PM
TomHimself TomHimself is offline
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I would say MP has flopped a set, thats why I think you have to raise PF.

Edit- Do you really think MP limps with AK? Maybee you can checkthe flop and see how fast he plays it if he played his 22 set fast last time
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Old 08-02-2005, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: Whats the play

Firstly after the limp and raise pre-flop you need to get all your chips in pre flop with just over 10x the BB and 2100 already in the pot when it gets back to you.

In terms of the flop, this is an ideal flop for 10 10, I'd check reraise all in as the button at the least is likely to try to steal this flop and you will have the best hand here the majority of the time.
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Old 08-02-2005, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: Whats the play

I'd have probably raised preflop - TT is definately a raising hand -

but after the fact a push post flop is essential. No overcards is the best situation you could hope for on that flop.

RB
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Old 08-02-2005, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: Whats the play

Reraise allin preflop is the play. Limp reraising allin UTG with a short stack (10bb) just screams monster. I'd fold in a heartbeat if I were the button here.
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Old 08-02-2005, 05:53 PM
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but after the fact a push post flop is essential

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I concur.
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Old 08-02-2005, 07:12 PM
G Baade G Baade is offline
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Default Re: Whats the play

I had plans for the reraise all in pre flop if button raised. The call by MP is what threw that plan for a loop.

As it turned out. I bet right out 1000. MP called and button folded. With that flop my 10's are usually golden so I [censored] my pants when MP called. I checked the brick turn and so did he. At that point I thought it was for sure either AK that whiffed or that lower PP. I figured any card that wasn't an A or K on the river and I am movin in. River was a 9 and I pushed. He insta calls and shows the boat with pocket 3's.

I should have pushed preflop. He would have never called with 3's. I was just worried about an UTG push and going into a coin flip with KJ. There had been a few people calling all ins with that type of hand. Only other way was if I raised something like 1000. That would have put 1600 in the middle with him having to call at 1/1.6. Button would have folded to that I am sure. As it were he had to call 700 to win 3200. Not necessarily the right odds to flop a set but, A) he could get away if it didnt set and still have a decent stack and B) if it did hit he could break me or double up thru button.

Thanks for the input!
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