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Old 11-25-2005, 12:50 PM
ninjaunderwear ninjaunderwear is offline
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Default Re: This is not as obvious as people seem to think

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Then I look at my hand – oh no, AA.
Disaster !
What do I do ?

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Old 11-25-2005, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event

My family thanksgiving ritual of going around the table and naming one thing that you are thankful for circles to me. I say "I am thankful that I have not seen a WSOP AA-KK first hand question in at least a month". Boy, that didn't last long.
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Old 11-25-2005, 01:56 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event

I apologize if such a thread has been created before

Apologize more. This is the 137,267th thread on this topic.

Easy call, by the way. Either you double up or go on Letterman the next day.
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Old 11-25-2005, 02:09 PM
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phil ivey might be the best player in the world, but the edge he has over any other particular world class player is very small. therefore, your logic that phil ivey is in a world all his own and you should fold all hands but AA proves you know nothing at all.

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First off, he has a pretty big advantage over other world class players, since he won the FTP Invitational. Secondly, the whole point was that few of the players in the tourney will be WCPs anyway, so on the first hand, it is a clear fold for Ivey w/ AA.
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Old 11-25-2005, 02:30 PM
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easiest call in the world...people like you are the reason we make so much money

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C'mon, Phil isn't going to risk his tourny on a crap hand. He might have you beat.
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Old 11-26-2005, 03:03 AM
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As you suggest, this situation has been gone over ad nauseum. To quote Doyle Brunson when asked about this scenario:

"The day I fold AA preflop is the day I quit playing poker."

That about sums it up.

Frank

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Well said.
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Old 11-26-2005, 03:06 AM
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Are the Aces suited? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 11-26-2005, 04:03 AM
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totally totally theoritical. noone is going to push 10000 to win 50 chips with ANY hand. nonetheless, if it did happen and i was the worlds greatest poker player, it's an instacall all the same. I mean, you play tournaments to put yourself in good situations, and it doesn't get much better than that.
You double up early so that you can be the aggressor for a while, and make it easier to accumulate even more.
Mike
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Old 11-26-2005, 05:04 AM
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Imagine this scenario. Phil Hellmuth is the SB, Phil Ivey is the BB. Both have AA. Hellmuth takes a glance at Ivey and of course puts him 100% on AA. Ivey, also before any action has taken place, takes a quick look at Hellmuth and puts him 100% on AA. Both fear getting allin against the other player on this hand, risking elimination for very small upside potential. What happens now? Will Phil Hellmuth open-fold AA from the SB? Of course, before acting, Phil Hellmuth will realize that Phil Ivey puts him on AA. And Ivey knows that Hellmuth puts him on AA and also knows that Hellmuth knows that he knows that Hellmuth has AA and puts him on AA. Will this results in some sort of stalemate situation where neither player can do anything?

You are correct, this really is a fascinating question.

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That's got to be some damn good weed you smoked. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-26-2005, 05:06 AM
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how did this thread get 48 responses?

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From people like you who just can't keep from making some kind of response. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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