A3s in big multi-way pot.

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4 callers and I'm on the button with A3s. I raise to make the pot big for when I have a draw

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I'm bad at the math, but if I understand you correctly. You're saying, with four players in, you will make your flush by the river once 1 out of 4 times to making raisng PF correct. I won't be able to respond as I need to leave for work. And yes I am being a little sarcastic here although I really do forget how often we flop even a flush draw and we really can't be feeling very secure with A3 when we hit TP against flor limpers.

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The theory is you make the pot big so people will chase things like overcards and gutshots when you have a draw or made flush.

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I really hate this idea. While you give people odds to incorrectly chase the fraction of the time that you hit your draw/flush, you give people odds to correctly chase the significant amount of time that you hit your ace.

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hands seems way over thought for .5/1 [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] i'm betting that flop for value and charge flush draws and straight draws now instead of waiting.

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Charging the flushes draws is an idea perpetuated by Lee Jones, and ridiculed by Ed Miller.

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Even assuming that there is a flush draw out there on the flop, and that everyone else will actually fold when they have the worst of it, we still get 2/3rds of each SB that goes in the pot versus the flush draw.

Add in the fact that people will call with all sorts of crap here and you're giving away a free card, IMO the flop is a must bet.

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you need to bet the flop for value and post .5/1 hands in micro-limits

edit: and i limp PF