10/20 multiway river fold #1

[mcvalenc]

MP - 32.3/23.6/2.52 in 161 hands.
UTG - 50.43/7.83/.76 in 115 hands.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, MP calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (16.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 17.50 BB

[mr pink]

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River: (16.50 BB) 2 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets, Hero folds.


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at 17.5:1 there is no chance he plays AJ like this?

[Lurkmaster Flex]

2.5 agro could play AJ like this or even the other QQ, however unlikely that is.

[The Truth]

I think after you call the turn, you need to go ahead and call the river bet.

You have a good chance to improve on turn with gutshot and set, but once the river blanks, turn the cards up.

A fold has value if you can let it go on the turn cause you are drawless except the over pair, so make the 8 a 2 and fold the turn maybe.

So, I call.

[TomBrooks]

I wouldn't fold that. I think it's especially inadvisable because the pot is big, and why call the turn but fold to a bet when a blank comes on the river?

[mcvalenc]

I would normally call this river without thinking twice. But I thought about my actions throughout the hand and I really didn't think I was good here &gt;5% of the time.

My OOP preflop 3bet and my flop 3bet on that board makes it pretty apparent that my worst hand is probably AJ. So when he smooth calls my flop 3bet and raises the turn to trap the LP between us I'm pretty sure I'm behind to some 2 flopped 2 pair or set. I don't think he's going to get fancy with a semibluff with the LP also in the pot.

Any thoughts on this? Or should I just default back to calling these hands down again.