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Old 11-29-2005, 03:08 PM
canis582 canis582 is offline
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Default Re: Libertarians: Closer to Liberals or Conservatives ?

The supreme court took away the right of Floridians to count their own votes!!!
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Old 11-29-2005, 05:05 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: Libertarians: Closer to Liberals or Conservatives ?

His nomination of Alito will serve to take away the rights of the individual.

That's interesting. Please explain why in the medical marijauana case the dissenting votes in favor of individual freedom were from Rehnquist, O'Connor & Thomas and on the Eminent domain case, the dissenting votes against low-income homeowners having their property seized by the government for corporate development were Rehnquist, O'Connor, Thomas and Scalia.

Seems in those two cases, individual freedom was being upheld by the justices with resumes close to Alitos.

Or are you just one of those liberals who thinks the only valid individual freedom is the right to an abortion?

I'm not a liberal. Liberals are pro-choice on abortion. I'm a libertarian. I'm pro-choice on everything.
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Old 11-29-2005, 05:12 PM
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"Or are you just one of those liberals who thinks the only valid individual freedom is the right to an abortion?"

This is known as setting up a straw man so you have something defenseless to beat up. Ann "crazy legs" coulter has taught you well.
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Alito wants to expand police powers and take rights away from women.

Should an abused wife have to get permission from her husband in order to get an abortion?

Should police officers be allowed to strip search 14 year old girls without a warrant or probable cause?

Alito says YES!
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Old 11-29-2005, 11:21 AM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: Libertarians: Closer to Liberals or Conservatives ?

I've found that most people (liberal or conservative) believe in authoritarian government.

Am I closer to a liberal or conservative?

I am pro-choice
I support the right of gays to get married
I believe there is an implied right to privacy in the Constitution
I believe that the right to own a gun is fundamental
I believe the right to keep 100% of the money you earn is fundamental
I believe welfare is counter-productive
I believe a graduated income tax of income is theft
I believe fewer laws is better for society than more laws
I believe Intelligent Design is a back-door attempt to introduce theology into science class.
I have no problem with Nativity displays in the town square
I do have a problem with the 10 Commandments in a courtroom
I think some of the most religiously intolerant people in the US are secularists
I thyink Eisenhower was the best president of my lifetime.

Am I more a liberal or conservative. You decide. The answer is irrelevant to me.
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:36 PM
Darryl_P Darryl_P is offline
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Default Re: Libertarians: Closer to Liberals or Conservatives ?

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I believe that the right to own a gun is fundamental
I believe the right to keep 100% of the money you earn is fundamental
I believe welfare is counter-productive
I believe a graduated income tax of income is theft
I believe fewer laws is better for society than more laws


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I think these issues carry more weight than the others you mention, therefore you are closer to being conservative IMO.
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Old 11-29-2005, 06:40 PM
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Am I closer to a liberal or conservative?
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I am pro-choice LIBERAL
I support the right of gays to get married LIBERAL
I believe there is an implied right to privacy in the Constitution LIBERAL
I believe that the right to own a gun is fundamental CONSERVATIVE
I believe the right to keep 100% of the money you earn is fundamental CONSERVATIVE
I believe welfare is counter-productive CONSERVATIVE
I believe a graduated income tax of income is theft CONSERVATIVE
I believe fewer laws is better for society than more laws LIBERAL
I believe Intelligent Design is a back-door attempt to introduce theology into science class LIBERAL
I have no problem with Nativity displays in the town square BOTH
I do have a problem with the 10 Comandments in a courtroom LIBERAL
I think some of the most religiously intolerant people in the US are secularists CONSERVATIVE
I think Eisenhower was the best president of my lifetime CONSERVATIVE

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You do the tally.

And we did not even go to sex, drugs or rock 'n roll.
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Old 11-29-2005, 11:50 AM
Felix_Nietsche Felix_Nietsche is offline
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Default The Correct Answer is...........

...........Conservatives.

Traditionally conservatives (Repubs) have been for lower taxes and lower spending while liberals (Dems) have been for higher taxes and higher spending (lets ignore the "compassionate conservative" idiocy of Bush43).

My premises is:
Taxes = Govt Power
Less taxes = Less Govt Power
More taxes = More Govt Power
More Govt Power = Greater restrictions of Freedom

Consider this, if a party passes a law that makes marijuana illegal but does not provide the funding to enforce this law then for all practical purposes....people are free to smoke marijuana. Funding (money) is the true source of power....

Since libertarians want more freedom, voting for the party that wants lower taxes is the best way to advance their libertarian beliefs.
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Old 11-29-2005, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: Libertarians: Closer to Liberals or Conservatives ?

I believe on fiscal policy, the Libertarians support programs similar to conservatives.

On Social Policy, Libertarians tend to be more like democrats. At the most, they wouldn't ban abortion but they'd throw a decision down to state level, but they're not just making a decision based on a religious power base.

RB
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Old 11-29-2005, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: Libertarians: Closer to Liberals or Conservatives ?

Our government has very little involvement in personal life, and an overwhelming amount of involvement in economic matters.

As another poster said, Bush might want me to go to church on Sunday, but he can't make me. However, he can and does spend my money.

So most libraterians are closer to republicans because fiscal matters are the matters most before us in government.

This is of course based on the classical roles of the two parties and assuming they actually stand for things, which they don't. Modern day republicans are fiscally irresponsible and modern day democrats are against free speech and particular social liberties they don't like.
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Old 11-29-2005, 02:49 PM
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"modern day democrats are against free speech and particular social liberties they don't like." Examples??? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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