Action Jackson

AceHigh · #1 05-02-2004, 12:18 PM

Loose Party 5/10 table. A number of my opponents frequently bet draws and top pair weak kicker into preflop raisers. The Blinds are especially loose/calling stations types.

3 callers to me on the button and I raise with Js Jd. Both blinds and all the limpers call.

** Dealing Flop ** : [ Kc, Tc, 4h ] (12 small bets, 6 players)

Checked around to me and I bet, the blinds call and all the limpers fold.

** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8c ] (7.5 big bets, 3 players)

Checked to me on the button and I check.

** Dealing River ** : [ Jc ]

Checked to me on the button and I bet, only the big blind calls.

Comments? Should I have bet the turn or checked the river? Anybody check the flop?

Results to follow.

PS - Anybody else having problems with Bison's hand converter?

sthief09 · #2 05-02-2004, 12:30 PM

I don't think the converter is working right now.

The turn is an easy bet, especially since you have no outs if you're behind a flush. If he check-raises you and is not a tricky player, you can easily fold. Your opponent could have easily called the flop with a straight or a 10. There's no reason to give him a free card here.

AceHigh · #3 05-02-2004, 12:36 PM

Yeah, you are probably right about the turn. These are the 2 loosest players at the table. I think I was worried about all those opponents and the coordinated board, but the situation is different on the turn with these opponents. The flush check/raise is pretty common on Party, but that shouldn't scare me because I'm beat if either of these guys raise.

Trix · #4 05-02-2004, 12:50 PM

Bet the turn, you said they were call stations your self.

I think checking the river is better as I think they will have a small-medium club more often than JT,Kx and I dont see them calling with anything else, give the texture of the board. Had the board been T-high they would call with many hands as they tend to put you on AK or AQ, but they cant here.

AceHigh · #5 05-02-2004, 01:49 PM

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I think checking the river is better

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Once I check the turn don't you think a flush would bet the river? That was my guess anyway, so I thought it was a value bet on the river.

Trix · #6 05-02-2004, 01:53 PM

I think a low club will check-call, as he only will get called by better hands.

bisonbison · #7 05-02-2004, 01:56 PM

I don't do the hosting, so I don't know if something was up this morning.

However, I just converted this, so if it was down, I think it's back up.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, Hero folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO raises, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Final Pot: 1.75 BB

sfer · #8 05-02-2004, 02:57 PM

Nice fold.

bisonbison · #9 05-02-2004, 02:59 PM

I play poker good.

AceHigh · #10 05-02-2004, 03:31 PM

The Big Blind had T5s (no clubs) and MHIG.

I probably should bet the turn here. I won't get any better hands to fold or anyone drawing live to fold but it is a value bet against these two.

I don't know if I would have bet the river if I bet the turn here, so maybe I made the same amount. These players were passive so they might not bet a low club, they definately call a bet with one.

I think it made it a clear value bet on the river when they check it thru again.