For those considering folding KK preflop in a $10+1 (LC)

[BeerNutts]

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Not at the 55's, not the 200's, not the Step Highers,not the WSOP....hell I am not folding KK pre-flop even if the tourney buy-in happened to be my wife and kids.

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I think Sklansky and Harrington would disagree with you. I was reading the Blog of the WSOP this year (as it was going on), and the most repeated bust was KK losing to AA.

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Friend, you obviously haven't read "Harrington on Hold'em." In one of them he says (talking about pre-flop hands), "If I hear of someone telling an elaborate story about how he had a read on someone and he folded KK preflop, I instantly think, 'Idiot.'"

So, Harrington would actually disagree with YOU!

[Hornacek]

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Not at the 55's, not the 200's, not the Step Highers,not the WSOP....hell I am not folding KK pre-flop even if the tourney buy-in happened to be my wife and kids.

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I think Sklansky and Harrington would disagree with you. I was reading the Blog of the WSOP this year (as it was going on), and the most repeated bust was KK losing to AA.

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Friend, you obviously haven't read "Harrington on Hold'em." In one of them he says (talking about pre-flop hands), "If I hear of someone telling an elaborate story about how he had a read on someone and he folded KK preflop, I instantly think, 'Idiot.'"

So, Harrington would actually disagree with YOU!

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Sorry, I read them them both in a week after they came out. But I'm 100% positive Sklansky says he's easily folded KK in his Tournament Holdem Book.

10+1 tourney people go all in with suited connectors for crying out loud!!! KK is a very strong hand, I cannot ever see laying it down pre-flop....QQ different story, still have a lot of cards that can beat you...But KK, you should not play the game if you are scared to play that hand...GL

[pergesu]

a. I don't know anyone who's ever considered folding kings preflop in an $11
b. We don't need a post to tell us that $11ers are donks

Quit shitting on my forum

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Not at the 55's, not the 200's, not the Step Highers,not the WSOP....hell I am not folding KK pre-flop even if the tourney buy-in happened to be my wife and kids.


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I think Sklansky and Harrington would disagree with you. I was reading the Blog of the WSOP this year (as it was going on), and the most repeated bust was KK losing to AA.


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Friend, you obviously haven't read "Harrington on Hold'em." In one of them he says (talking about pre-flop hands), "If I hear of someone telling an elaborate story about how he had a read on someone and he folded KK preflop, I instantly think, 'Idiot.'"

So, Harrington would actually disagree with YOU!

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Hi. That is correct, as far as it goes to folding KK based on a read of your opponent (in most cases). However, on the rare occasion when an excellent player might fold KK preflop, it would likely not be based on a read...but it could be based on the table conditions when it is time to act. The same, to a lesser chance, might apply to a great player and AA.

[Cassidy]

#Game No : 2870159102
***** Hand History for Game 2870159102 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:16506867 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Thursday, November 03, 12:35:23 EDT 2005
Table Table 35240 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 4: HERO ( $400 )
Seat 9: matsan1 ( $1345 )
Seat 1: zajax ( $1000 )
Seat 7: blackfeet2 ( $755 )
Seat 2: forzapalermo ( $795 )
Seat 5: Mercury21 ( $800 )
Seat 10: Vadim17 ( $760 )
Seat 3: tow21 ( $995 )
Seat 6: robs2611 ( $1150 )
Trny:16506867 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kc Kh ]
Mercury21 calls [15].
robs2611 folds.
blackfeet2 calls [15].
matsan1 folds.
Vadim17 folds.
zajax folds.
forzapalermo raises [125].
tow21 folds.
HERO calls [110].
Mercury21 raises [260].
blackfeet2 folds.
forzapalermo is all-In [670]
HERO is all-In [275]
Mercury21 calls [520].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3s, 7s, 6s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9c ]
** Dealing River ** [ Qc ]
Mercury21 shows [ As, Ah ] a pair of aces.
forzapalermo shows [ Ac, Ad ] a pair of aces.
HERO shows [ Kc, Kh ] a pair of kings.

This hand gave me a nice warm fuzzy feeling all over.