100% standard AJ raptor hand from sb.. in the 55s at least.. - Page 6

raptor517 · #51 08-09-2005, 06:41 PM

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As far as I could tell your only previous post in this thread had been "OH, SNAP."

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Presumably he means he discussed it with raptor over IM or something like that.

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yes i talk with many 2+2ers on aim for more in depth analysis and such, apathy is one such poster. holla

#52 08-09-2005, 06:53 PM

I agree with how you played it raptor....

But for the sake of discussion, how do you play this hand if you were on the button? Facing the same action.

Newt_Buggs · #53 08-09-2005, 07:00 PM

check-call the turn. If he checks behind, lead out on the river, if he bets the turn and bets again on the river possibly fold.

Jay36489 · #54 08-09-2005, 07:02 PM

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I don't understand. If you just refuse to play AJ then fold it pre-flop. If you can't play it with this flop what the hell are you doing in the hand. You've clearly decided that villian has an AK,AQ,set or 2 pair and carefully eliminated all other possibilities through some unknown power. Insight into the use of this power would be appreciated.

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i love it when people who have earned zero respect from me and have likely playedl ess than 500 sngs try to berate me instead of calmly asking questions.

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You sound like the people curtains has been running into over at MTT...

johnnybeef · #55 08-09-2005, 07:05 PM

alright, here is my analysis...people rarely open limp ak or aq in the 55s, and because the pot is not big, i dont see the second limper limping ak or aq either. you are likely ahead, so forchrisakes lead the flop and get some information back. the pot is still very small, so it will be easy to get away from.

LotsOfOuts69 · #56 08-09-2005, 07:59 PM

Damn raptor, didn't even see you at my table. If I told you I had 2 hearts on this hand would you have folded pre-flop?

#Game No : 2506241040
***** Hand History for Game 2506241040 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14690139 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Tuesday, August 09, 17:07:49 EDT 2005
Table Table 11900 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: CATCH8 ( $1135 )
Seat 2: MrSneakers ( $810 )
Seat 3: Itachi86 ( $760 )
Seat 4: HeelofTar ( $2800 )
Seat 6: hold___fold ( $1650 )
Seat 7: Domanooch ( $770 )
Seat 9: TopSet69 ( $2075 )
Trny:14690139 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TopSet69 [ 7h 2h ]
>You have options at Table 12976 Table!.
CATCH8 calls [100].
MrSneakers folds.
Itachi86 is all-In [760]
HeelofTar folds.
>You have options at Table 14536 Table!.
>You have options at Table 12976 Table!.
>You have options at Table 12976 Table!.
>You have options at Table 14536 Table!.
hold___fold calls [760].
Domanooch folds.
TopSet69 folds.
CATCH8 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, 2d, Ts ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
** Dealing River ** [ 3h ]
Itachi86 shows [ Ah, Qh ] high card ace.
hold___fold shows [ Jh, Js ] three of a kind, jacks.
hold___fold wins 1770 chips from the main pot with three of a kind, jacks.
Itachi86 finished in seventh place.
Itachi86 has left the table.
Game #2506245378 starts.

I won this tourny, but you got 1% of my rake.

--LoO

lastchance · #57 08-09-2005, 08:13 PM

Meh, I really don't like it. The turn should be at least worth check-calling with the blank. I agree with Unarmed. Villains could have any ace, and a J kicker should be good here. I like pushing the small edges, and you've got a pretty nice edge here, which can lead to a bigger stack L4 for more bullying.

Checking flop is an interesting idea that works. I like the check-call line a lot, need to use it more.

petvan · #58 08-09-2005, 08:26 PM

Myself, I pop the flop to 100 and dump if I get resistence. Like to know where I am.

Then again, on my best I do to the 30's what you do to the 200's steadily. Yikes!!

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faquewdikhed · #59 08-09-2005, 08:33 PM

did anyone mention bad position in an unraised 4way pot?

astarck · #60 08-09-2005, 08:42 PM

From what I can tell by your posts in this thread you played this hand to gain information about your opponents so you can get into situations later with this knowledge and destroy them for TONS of chips. You weren't necessarily playing this hand in order to make the best hand and win a few meaningless chips this early in the SNG.

I hope I'm at least somewhat correct here??

What I don't understand is that if I am correct and this hand was strictly about information why not raise preflop? You have two late position limpers who have signaled they are holding garbage and want to try to see a flop and if you are looking for information which information is more important: How they play postflop (which will occur less and less frequently as blinds get higher), or how weak they are preflop (and preflop play obviously becomes more prominent near the bubble).

To me, noticing that they limp in with garbage and fold with it would probably help me more later if they limp with higher blinds.