So the worst card in the deck comes on the turn and...

Azhrarn · #1 04-20-2005, 09:18 PM

This was my first time playing with the button, but we had been at the table for a while, and he seemed decent and capable of non-straightforward play.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 4 folds, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG calls, Hero caps, Button calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (13.40 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, Button raises, UTG folds, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.

Turn: (9.70 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero folds.

I was having a rough session, and I think frustration played a part in my fold. I'm not sure it was the right move. What do you guys think?

private joker · #2 04-20-2005, 09:20 PM

Nice hand.

Nick C · #3 04-20-2005, 09:31 PM

Well, the turn card lets us know that Villain wasn't raising overcards plus a flush draw on the flop (unless he has the unlikely K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Once he raises the turn, we're really hoping he's being tricky with a hand like Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. And if he has that, he's pretty much hoping you specifically have a clubless KK and will fold.

Which you did, and I think the fold is fine. I think you're behind here too often. Also, on those rare occasions when you aren't behind, you'll get outdrawn more often, on average, than you'll spike a miracle king (which, on occasion, also won't be enough).

jt1 · #4 04-20-2005, 09:38 PM

seems like a good fold. had villian capped the flop then u should have either check called the turn and river or bet and called down the raise.

but he only called the re-raise so he can still have just AK.

w_alloy · #5 04-20-2005, 10:06 PM

Nice hand, I hope thats how I would have played it. That fold is tough but i thinks its the right move.

wrto4556 · #6 04-20-2005, 10:12 PM

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uw_madtown · #7 04-20-2005, 11:53 PM

Very very standard, well-played.

SippinSoma · #8 04-21-2005, 12:03 AM

I like. I don't think I'd have the discipline to fold here during a rough session, but it looks right on paper.

wrto4556 · #9 04-21-2005, 12:10 AM

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I like. I don't think I'd have the discipline to fold here during a rough session, but it looks right on paper.

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Thinking in terms of BB/100 has helped me make these laydowns. You want a certain BB/100 hands and when you look at this, you *know* you are giving away 2 BB on this hand. That sucks when you think about your goal being 2 BB/100 hands.

crunchy1 · #10 04-21-2005, 12:17 AM

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Thinking in terms of BB/100 has helped me make these laydowns. You want a certain BB/100 hands and when you look at this, you *know* you are giving away 2 BB on this hand. That sucks when you think about your goal being 2 BB/100 hands.

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YUK! [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]