big bluff in super

schwza · #1 11-01-2005, 12:36 PM

we're itm in last night's super (150+12). there are ~90 left out of 1175 (140 pay). average is ~13k and i am one of the top couple stacks. this is villain's first hand at the table, but i have the following notes on him from an earlier table: "fishy D 25/50. loose preflop." his PT stats are 19/13 in 220 hands. sorry, no bisonbison.

i have been running over the table with no resistance whatsoever since somewhat before the bubble, but villain doesn't know that.

***** Hand History for Game 2962605466 *****
1000/2000 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 17036052)
e Nov 01 00:52:41 EST 2005
Table Super Monday(495808) Table 6 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: Parrott33 (21592)
Seat 2: choose_life (11576)
Seat 4: danielsbry (27756)
Seat 5: theeverest (15193)
Seat 6: MaddCapper (29110)
Seat 7: Hi3pnotic (25823)
Seat 8: DA_PP_POLICE (8537)
Seat 9: HERO (37419)
choose_life posts small blind (500)
danielsbry posts big blind (1000)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Tc, Kc ]
theeverest folds.
MaddCapper folds.
Hi3pnotic folds.
DA_PP_POLICE folds.
HERO raises (2300) to 2300
Parrott33 folds.
choose_life folds.
danielsbry calls (1300)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ks, 6s, Ts ] (pot 5.1k)
danielsbry bets (2300)
HERO raises (10000) to 10000
danielsbry calls (7700)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Js ] (pot 25.1k)
danielsbry checks.
HERO checks.
** Dealing River ** : [ 4s ] (pot 25.1k, villain has 15.4k)
danielsbry checks.
HERO bets (25119)
HERO is all-In.

rockythecat99 · #2 11-01-2005, 12:39 PM

I like it. If he doesn't have the Ace he is folding here a good percentage of the time. The way you played it you certainly represented the ace. I like. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

zambonidrivr · #3 11-01-2005, 12:55 PM

I think a preflop shove here is better. You have a ton of FE and they would have a very tight range to make this call. Your goal this this crap hand is to collect blinds only right? Instead you basically pot commited yourself with trash, and could have busted when villian showed strength. Thats just me. NH, you picked up quite a few chips here.

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schwza · #4 11-01-2005, 01:11 PM

what? shove pre-flop with an effective stack of 27x?

Rizen · #5 11-01-2005, 01:13 PM

I think your river bluff is fine (although I think you may find out you were actually ahead on this river anyways). I'm curious though, why the check on the turn? I would have a very hard time giving a free card here. I'd like to hear your line of thought.

-Rizen

schwza · #6 11-01-2005, 01:14 PM

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I think your river bluff is fine (although I think you may find out you were actually ahead on this river anyways). I'm curious though, why the check on the turn? I would have a very hard time giving a free card here. I'd like to hear your line of thought.

-Rizen

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is this give-schwza-incoherent-advice-day?

i'm playing the board on the river.

Exitonly · #7 11-01-2005, 01:14 PM

any bet on the turn would have to be all-in, and what better hands fold, or what worse hands call?

schwza · #8 11-01-2005, 01:18 PM

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any bet on the turn would have to be all-in, and what better hands fold, or what worse hands call?

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sets and small flushes may fold the turn.

zambonidrivr · #9 11-01-2005, 01:28 PM

Alright, I'm giong to ask a question that I know I'm going to get flammed for. But please realize, I'm being honest here.

Is this an example of a hand where:
1. You have outplayed someone after the flop
2. A textbook move from a donkey that makes winning players more profitable.

And don't give me crap like I am clueless. I won the Guarenteed $40K last week. Yes, I had the luckbox on but never would I make a play like this sacrifising any FE i had left in a tourney.

Also, if this is a common move, where can I read more on how to do this sort of thing. I have read most of the books out there, HOH vol 1&2 are my fav. I just don't recall learning anything like this.

NH though, I am glad it worked out for you.

KneeCo · #10 11-01-2005, 01:30 PM

His flop action actually makes it seem like he has a draw. but if he had a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] strong enough to call the bluff I would assume he would have lead out at the river after the check/check turn, so I like the move here.

Let's say you had the same stack you do here, but didn't have your opponent covered, do you make the same move, check it down, or try for a Post-Oak bluff?