Bizzare hand simulator results

#1 10-02-2005, 05:42 PM

Trying

As Kc
Ac Qh
6d 5d

at http://simulator.pokertips.org/simulator.php

yields

Holdem Hi: 1370754 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Kc 521701 38.06 812060 59.24 36993 2.70 0.394
Ac Qh 268442 19.58 1065319 77.72 36993 2.70 0.209
6d 5d 543618 39.66 822582 60.01 4554 0.33 0.398

i.e. 65 suited becomes favourite over AK!!

I'm guessing this is wrong. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Anyone with a reliable hand simulator able to confirm this, and can anyone recommend a simulator? Preferably free to download?

Oh, and hello forum. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

MexKrax · #2 10-02-2005, 05:53 PM

I get the same results using pokerstove.

#3 10-02-2005, 06:05 PM

Hmm, to the hand, yes. I expected 76s to be +EV here, but this is ludicrous.

#4 10-02-2005, 06:33 PM

I got the same thing with my simulator. It's because the A K has one of his aces missing and a Q which is one of his straight cards. Plus the 6 5 is suited. Without the AQ hand in the mix, the AK becomes the favorite (57.6%). But by eliminating the A and Q from the deck, and 6 5 being suited, this tips the scale to slightly favor 5 6 suited.

Try pocket aces vs. 65 suited. 6 5 suited is the best possible hand to have against pocket aces heads up. It seems wrong but it's right.

MyTurn2Raise · #5 10-03-2005, 12:18 AM

Plus, none of the overcards are of the same suit as 65

#6 10-03-2005, 02:44 AM

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Hmm, to the hand, yes. I expected 76s to be +EV here, but this is ludicrous.

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Why would you expect 76s to be more +EV than 65s vs. these cards?

2+2 wannabe · #7 10-03-2005, 04:55 AM

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Hmm, to the hand, yes. I expected 76s to be +EV here, but this is ludicrous.

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Why would you expect 76s to be more +EV than 65s vs. these cards?

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5 is one of the A's wheel cards

dibbs · #8 10-03-2005, 05:24 AM

Having live cards rocks.

Play around with the A5 anomaly too, it seems that always gets asked on here.

#9 10-03-2005, 07:20 AM

I didn't, I meant to type 65s lol. What I mean is that I expected 65s to win > 1/3 of the time... but not more than AK.

BarronVangorToth · #10 10-03-2005, 07:55 AM

CardPlayer - I know it's a bit of a cumbersome calculator, but for these types of hands I like how the results look.

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