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Old 08-08-2005, 03:13 AM
Jman28 Jman28 is offline
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Default Rough Ride with the Ladies in a $215

No reads on UTG. Played with UTG+1 a couple times.. haven't seen him do anything out of line. What range of hands do you put these fellas on? Shorties wanna ride wit' me?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter

CO (t840)
Hero (t930)
SB (t1695)
BB (t960)
UTG (t975)
UTG+1 (t675)
UTG+2 (t720)
MP1 (t1255)
MP2 (t975)
MP3 (t975)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t125, UTG+1 Pushes (t675)</font>, <font color="#666666"> like 80 folds </font> , Hero...
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Old 08-08-2005, 03:23 AM
SammyKid11 SammyKid11 is offline
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Default Re: Rough Ride with the Ladies in a $215

Well, UTG could have AA-99, AK, AKs-AJs (or he could be more of a donkey than I'm giving him credit for). UTG+1, especially knowing him to be pretty solid...you've gotta put him on no WORSE than JJ or AK. Tough fold, but probably a fold. If I had to take a wild guess, I'd bet you're out there against AK and KK.
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Old 08-08-2005, 03:25 AM
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Default Re: Rough Ride with the Ladies in a $215

fold, not close.
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Old 08-08-2005, 03:27 AM
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Default Re: Rough Ride with the Ladies in a $215

You have a guy who raises rather large UTG (Danger!) and the guy right after him pushes (DANGER!) and even if you are calling, the UTG raiser can still join the party putting Queens in a multiway pot (DANGER!!!).

Silently curse the world and fold.
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Old 08-08-2005, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: Rough Ride with the Ladies in a $215

I don't really want to put either of them on AA.

AK or pockets lower than QQ seem real likely for UTG+1 and the extra big raise from UTG also looks like AK or JJ or TT or something.

I don't really like UTG+1 for KK either. Seems like with his stack he would be willing to chance some extra callers with it.

Two AKs would sure be sweet, and AK and JJ would be pretty sweet too.
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Old 08-08-2005, 03:47 AM
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Default Re: Rough Ride with the Ladies in a $215

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fold, not close.

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well, it certainly isnt this clearcut.. it IS close though, i honestly wouldnt be surprised to see 99 and AQ showdown. i fold though MOST times.. holla
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Old 08-08-2005, 03:47 AM
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UTG+1, especially knowing him to be pretty solid...you've gotta put him on no WORSE than JJ or AK

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I agree, pretty much (maybe TT). Thing is, I can't put him on much better than those hands either. I feel like he'd raise smaller with AA and maybe KK too to get more value.

His push seems like he wants people out.
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Old 08-08-2005, 03:49 AM
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Two AKs would sure be sweet, and AK and JJ would be pretty sweet too.

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As a sidenote, I got all in earlier today with KK v QQ v AKo v AKo.
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Old 08-08-2005, 03:50 AM
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Default Re: Rough Ride with the Ladies in a $215

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Two AKs would sure be sweet, and AK and JJ would be pretty sweet too.

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As a sidenote, I got all in earlier today with KK v QQ v AKo v AKo.

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if TT came along it would have won no contest. holla
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Old 08-08-2005, 03:53 AM
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I don't really like UTG+1 for KK either. Seems like with his stack he would be willing to chance some extra callers with it.

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Maybe thigns are different at the 215s but when do you want multiple callers on your KK?! I cant think of anyone who would prefer playing KK against many opponents.

Looks like KK, JJ, or AK to me, with lesser credit given for TT, 99, and AA.

In the $50s im used to, this is a tough play but i tend to call for the great odds in what will probably end up being about a coinflip. Tripling here sure looks good, and if OB folds theres only one, MAYBE two hands youre afraid of him showing.
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