QQ and AKo -- two hands from a minus 75 BB session

Nick C · #1 05-03-2005, 02:25 AM

Okay, mostly I'm just double-checking here (I think).

I was fairly new at the table for both of these. In this first hand, the note I had on UTG at the time was that he was a 32s player:

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG calls, MP2 folds.

Flop: (7.33 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG 3-bets, Hero caps, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (8.66 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero calls.

River: (12.66 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 12.66 BB

In this second hand, my note on MP1 was that he liked to slowplay flopped boats. The word "slowplay" seems to be a theme in my notes on people lately, actually. (Tonight I encountered someone who limped aces, check-called the flop, check-called the turn, and then went nuts on the river. He did get paid off pretty well on the river, which got capped, I have to admit.)

Anyway, though, that wasn't MP1. All he did to get his note was raise AJs preflop in a previous hand and then quickly slow down once he actually flopped a boat.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 raises, 3 folds, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (11.33 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 raises, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (8.16 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets, Hero raises, MP1 calls.

River: (12.16 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 14.16 BB

Do you see any big problems? I'm questioning myself, after tonight's session.

wrto4556 · #2 05-03-2005, 02:26 AM

Nice hands.

Piiop · #3 05-03-2005, 02:27 AM

They both look standard to me.

nrinker · #4 05-03-2005, 02:30 AM

Nevermind.

mtdoak · #5 05-03-2005, 02:32 AM

Both look pretty standard to me. Just play through it, i had a 50 BB downswing on sunday which I came back from today.

Yobz · #6 05-03-2005, 03:13 AM

Maybe I'm a LAG, but what about betting the river in hand 1? Afraid of another c/r?

Willluck · #7 05-03-2005, 03:51 AM

I'd bet the river on hand one...maybe fold to a c/r, depends on my read.

KDawgCometh · #8 05-03-2005, 03:54 AM

I like em both. don't sweatr it my man. I'm just coming out of a one week 130 Bb downswing. If you play your hands like this, you'll be perfectly fine. nhs

GrekeHaus · #9 05-03-2005, 04:56 AM

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Un this second hand, my note on MP1 was that he liked to slowplay flopped boats. The word "slowplay" seems to be a theme in my notes on people lately, actually. (Tonight I encountered someone who limped aces, check-called the flop, check-called the turn, and then went nuts on the river.

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I wouldn't spend too much time worrying about slow plays against loose passive opponents. If you do this you will become too passive. Sure, you'll pay them off a lot of the time, but they won't be slowplaying monsters enough to make up for all the bets they lose calling down with garbage.

The only time I really ever worry about this in a small stakes game is against a notoriously aggressive player who all of a suddent starts calling.

brettbrettr · #10 05-03-2005, 07:41 AM

Hand 1, I find his river check strange, but given the fact that he went 4 on the flop and raised the turn I think I like the check-behind. I'd probably value bet here, but that might be a stubborn, silly play.

Hand 2 looks good. I might make it 3 on the flop to try and get rid of UTG though.