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Old 10-11-2005, 10:02 AM
HavanaBanana HavanaBanana is offline
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Default Re: What happened to Prima?

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had no action on my big hands

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Do You see Why?

Anyways, rake at Prima is Rake/players contributing to the pot (does not matter how much).

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Old 10-11-2005, 10:12 AM
Stefan_K Stefan_K is offline
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Default Re: What happened to Prima?

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The rake computation is the same!

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this is incorrect I think.

I have understood that party calculates rake as ottal rake for the hand/# of players dealt in.

Prima: total rake for the hand * percentage of the pot you contributed, win or lose.

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I'm a bit slow, but does this meen that at party they counted the rake dived with the pople at the tabel
and at prima its the %of rake that you yourself create.

does this also meen that 45% is like 33% at party or similar?
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Old 10-11-2005, 10:17 AM
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Default Re: What happened to Prima?

it depends on how many hands you play, both affect different players differently.
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Old 10-11-2005, 10:28 AM
William William is offline
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Default Re: What happened to Prima?

I decided to try Prima for the 45% rakeback.
Pardon my ignorance, but where can you get 45% rakeback at prima? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
If it is a no-no to talk about this, can you please send me a PM?
Thanks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-11-2005, 10:30 AM
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Default Re: What happened to Prima?

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I decided to try Prima for the 45% rakeback.
Pardon my ignorance, but where can you get 45% rakeback at prima? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
If it is a no-no to talk about this, can you please send me a PM?
Thanks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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If you go to rakerebatereview.com there are a couple of affiliates there that seem to offer this.
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Old 10-11-2005, 12:06 PM
DuggleBogey DuggleBogey is offline
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Default Re: What happened to Prima?

Yeah...."up to" 45%....nothing like ad-speak in the already scummy world of rake rebates.
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Old 10-11-2005, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: What happened to Prima?

Stox,

In my experience, Prima is using the party method, not the contributed method.
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Old 10-11-2005, 01:07 PM
DWarrior DWarrior is offline
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Default Re: What happened to Prima?

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Stox,

In my experience, Prima is using the party method, not the contributed method.

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Then why does 6 hours of 2-tabling Party net $66 in rake while 8 hours of 4-tabling Prima net $38 in rake? If contribution is correct, it looks like Party is better for TAGs because we fold so much.
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Old 10-11-2005, 01:50 PM
kylma kylma is offline
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Default Re: What happened to Prima?

No, they use contributed rake.
That's why the OP probably gets less rakeback there than in Party.. The problem is even worse for a tight full ring limit player..
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Old 10-11-2005, 02:29 PM
StellarWind StellarWind is offline
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Default Re: What happened to Prima?

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The rake computation is the same!

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I recently asked Alex Jagodik of BetHoldem:

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4. When a pot is raked, how is the MGR allocated among the players at the table? Does everyone who was dealt cards get an equal share or only players who contributed money to the pot? If the latter, does everyone who contributed get an equal share or is it prorated based on how much each player contributed?

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He replied:

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it prorated based on how much each player contributed

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If you think about it, this would seem to be how the entire network divides up all rake among the various skins. The effect of this method is to lower MGR of tight players and increase MGR of loose players.

However it appears that BetHoldem (and most other Prima skins?) will credit you with a raked hand for bonus purposes if you receive cards. I think this has created much of the confusion: bonuses and <mumble> don't work the same way.
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