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Old 11-21-2005, 03:27 AM
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Default Re: (22) Is this too weak tight/

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t760)
CO (t605)
Button (t590)
SB (t1665)
BB (t775)
UTG (t785)
UTG+1 (t835)
MP1 (t855)
MP2 (t1130)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t145

No read on UTG he had not done anything so far.

I really dont like this situation because If I reraise here I feel like I have to play for my whole stack, but if I call I could be only caller in pot and will not be getting odds to hit my ace or king. Is folding really bad here? What is you play?

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Pushing here is fine... I hate calling for over an eighth of your stack, and folding is too weak even against an UTG raiser. Not only could UTG be raising with a hand that you dominate (AQ, KQ, AJ), but there's a good chance that pushing will move him off of a medium pocket pair.
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Old 11-21-2005, 03:33 AM
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Default Re: (22) Is this too weak tight/

Do you give villain any credit for folding the first 10 or so hands?
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Old 11-21-2005, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: (22) Is this too weak tight/

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but there's a good chance that pushing will move him off of a medium pocket pair.

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I just wanted to comment on this. I play at the $33s and I get called a lot here with any pocket pair (or use to, I've slowed down with my AK recently.) Seems to me, it is hard to knock someone off low-mid pairs after they have committed chips.

Is this just me, or do others get this feeling?

As for the actually hand, I'd just call and hope to hit the flop. Give up on the hand otherwise. Maybe I'm to weak as well, but I don't like a re-raise less than a push here and I also don't like a coinflip. At the 22s, I don't think you are getting anything TT+ and above to lay down there hand. If the guy had been in a lot of hands so far, I would consider the push and hope to see AQ.
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Old 11-21-2005, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: (22) Is this too weak tight/

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but there's a good chance that pushing will move him off of a medium pocket pair.

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I just wanted to comment on this. I play at the $33s and I get called a lot here with any pocket pair (or use to, I've slowed down with my AK recently.) Seems to me, it is hard to knock someone off low-mid pairs after they have committed chips.

Is this just me, or do others get this feeling?

As for the actually hand, I'd just call and hope to hit the flop. Give up on the hand otherwise. Maybe I'm to weak as well, but I don't like a re-raise less than a push here and I also don't like a coinflip. At the 22s, I don't think you are getting anything TT+ and above to lay down there hand. If the guy had been in a lot of hands so far, I would consider the push and hope to see AQ.

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If you care about hourly rate I wouldn't worry too much if you get called with mid pocket pairs at lvl 2.
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Old 11-21-2005, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: (22) Is this too weak tight/

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but there's a good chance that pushing will move him off of a medium pocket pair.

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I just wanted to comment on this. I play at the $33s and I get called a lot here with any pocket pair (or use to, I've slowed down with my AK recently.) Seems to me, it is hard to knock someone off low-mid pairs after they have committed chips.

Is this just me, or do others get this feeling?

As for the actually hand, I'd just call and hope to hit the flop. Give up on the hand otherwise. Maybe I'm to weak as well, but I don't like a re-raise less than a push here and I also don't like a coinflip. At the 22s, I don't think you are getting anything TT+ and above to lay down there hand. If the guy had been in a lot of hands so far, I would consider the push and hope to see AQ.

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If you care about hourly rate I wouldn't worry too much if you get called with mid pocket pairs at lvl 2.

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If I push here I dont think I will get called by that many hands I am ahead of. I think there is a very good chance of being called by mid pocket pair and I dont see calling with worse than AJ, probibly AQ (keep in mind this is the first hand he has played and is UTG). Do you really think the 100 I will win if he folds compensated for the times I take the wrong end of a coinflip, not to mention the times he has aces or kings?
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