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Old 12-07-2005, 03:06 PM
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Default JJ as an overpair

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Hero ($74.77)
Button ($56.75)
SB ($54.74)
BB ($49.75)
UTG ($21.97)
MP ($55.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $2, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($6.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9</font>, Button folds, Hero calls $10.97.

Turn: ($29.72) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($29.72) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $29.72

UTG pushed after I raised.
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: JJ as an overpair

reraise preflop
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: JJ as an overpair

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reraise preflop

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Old 12-07-2005, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: JJ as an overpair

Raise pre-flop. You can represent any Broadway card that flops. You are getting short stack all in on any non-ace flop right?
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:03 PM
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Standard line. No problem as i see it. Coulda, shoulda, woulda reraised pre-flop but makes no difference in the end (I think).
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:05 PM
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Nicely done postflop

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Old 12-07-2005, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: JJ as an overpair

I agree with everyone about the reraise.

Any reason why we wouldn't put UTG all-in preflop since he's pretty short stacked and we're likely ahead?

If we put him all-in preflop, he's paying to hit something should he have AK, AQ, AJ, AT.

On the other hand, if we take a flop and he has something like TT, QQ, KK we could represent AK if an A flops.

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Old 12-07-2005, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: JJ as an overpair

Most of the replies to this post advocate re-raising preflop with JJ.

What is the range of hands that hero should reraise here in the cutoff given an open raise from UTG to 4xbb in 6 Max NL $50, as shown in this hand? And why?

Given that range of hands, what do you fold to a 3-bet given no real reads on villain yet, as shown in this hand?

I would have reraised: AA, KK, QQ.

Obviously most of you guys reraise JJ. What about AK, TT, AQ(s), 99, 88, 77, lower pairs, AJ(s), AT(s), KQ/KJ, etc?

I mostly play full ring, and a big re-raise preflop full ring is almost always AA or KK. Occasionally, I'll see a guy with AK do it, but if he gets a 3-bet from the original raiser, he is almost always up against AA or KK.

But 6-max is obviously different, so how different?
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:51 PM
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I don't view the minraise as a real raise, unless villain indicates to me that he will minraise with a good hand.

Given that, I'm likely to reraise with 88-AA and AK...or somewhere along that.
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:02 PM
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And what is the minimum hand that you will call a 3-bet from the original raiser preflop given your range of re-raising hands? For example, UTG raises to $2, you reraise JJ to $8, and UTG makes it $25 to go? What do you do with the reads in the hand posted here (i.e. not a lot of good reads) in the situation given in the OP?

Vs a 3-bet to $25 from villain and you have-
AA?
KK?
AK?
QQ?
JJ?
TT?
99?
88?

Vs a 3-bet push from villain, and you have-
AA?
KK?
AK?
QQ?
JJ?
TT?
99?
88?
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