Posted in the CO with QTs

shant · #1 05-06-2005, 05:33 PM

Edit: Sorry, forgot reads: Villain is a TAG 15/10 with normal TAG aggression. BB is semi-tight and aggressive.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $3.
2 folds, MP1 raises, 2 folds, Hero (poster) calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets, Hero raises

Standard?

WillMagic · #2 05-06-2005, 05:34 PM

I like it.

Will

jason_t · #3 05-06-2005, 05:35 PM

I like it. But:

Read? What's your plan if BB cold calls and Villain calls? What if BB folds and Villain calls? What if Villain 3-bets? What if Villain pulls a stop 'n' go on the turn and you don't improve? I think that having a plan is important when making a play.

I'm jealous of your location. Speaking of which, I should be studying. Sigh.

Sarge85 · #4 05-06-2005, 05:39 PM

Jiggified.

Assuming there wasn't a three bet on the turn you have to bet any non-paint - save the Queen.

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WillMagic · #5 05-06-2005, 05:39 PM

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I like it. But:

Read? What's your plan if BB cold calls and Villain calls?

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Take a free card unless you pair up.

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What if BB folds and Villain calls?

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Bet the (EDIT: non-ace) turn and river.

Will

shant · #6 05-06-2005, 05:46 PM

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Read?

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Forgot to post them. Check the edit.

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What's your plan if BB cold calls and Villain calls?

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If I didn't improve on the turn, I was betting if checked to. I was checking behind on a club turn. Obviously betting a T or Q.

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What if BB folds and Villain calls?

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Same as above.

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What if Villain 3-bets?

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Calling and folding the turn UI.

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What if Villain pulls a stop 'n' go on the turn and you don't improve?

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Folding.

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I'm jealous of your location.

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Gotta love being unemployed.

tipperdog · #7 05-06-2005, 06:28 PM

Ummm...fold? You have no hand and an extremely weak overcard draw that may be dominated. You almost certainly do not have the best hand. You're not heads up and you're facing a pre-flop raiser from a non-steal position.

I think "await a better situation" is the appropriate play.

New001 · #8 05-06-2005, 06:33 PM

Some people raise subpar hands from earlier positions than normal when there's a poster.

jason_t · #9 05-06-2005, 06:34 PM

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Ummm...fold? You have no hand and an extremely weak overcard draw that may be dominated. You almost certainly do not have the best hand. You're not heads up and you're facing a pre-flop raiser from a non-steal position.

I think "await a better situation" is the appropriate play.

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It's time to get out of the kiddie pool and start making some moves. Some advantages to making plays like this are

0. Punish those who try and steal posts.
1. We only have to steal a few pots in this situation for this play to be profitable.
2. If we are called down, observant opponents will see this play and we become harder to read. This obviously has advantages.
3. It's important to play non-ABC poker at the higher limits. Practice now.

As far as "await[ing] a better situation," this is actually a pretty good situation. We have two overcards, a backdoor flush draw and a backdoor straight draw. The pot is 7.33 SB. We're not in terrible shape.

Sarge85 · #10 05-06-2005, 06:42 PM

Good Stuff.

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