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Old 07-26-2005, 03:23 AM
calamere calamere is offline
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Default Do you like this bubble push?

I had been very aggressive in the last two hands and taken down both pots with no showdown. Was this a good push? +EV at all? Wait for a better spot? Obviously I don't need the chips but I'm trying to improve my aggression level especially in the SB.


***** Hand History for Game 2425841753 *****
300/600 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14267746) - Tue Jul 26 02:13:00 EDT 2005
Table Table 14099 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: bmxreed_36 (1290)
Seat 3: Cooldudeon (1810)
Seat 7: teddykgb319 (3100)
Seat 8: calamere (1800)
calamere posts small blind (150)
bmxreed_36 posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to calamere [ 3d, Tc ]
Cooldudeon folds.
teddykgb319 folds.
calamere raises (1650) to 1800
calamere is all-In.
bmxreed_36 calls (990)
bmxreed_36 is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $2580 with bmxreed_36
Creating Side Pot 1 with $510 with calamere
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3h, Jc, 4d ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 5d ]
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Old 07-26-2005, 03:25 AM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: Do you like this bubble push?

I don't think I can fold T-high here.
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Old 07-26-2005, 03:29 AM
The Don The Don is offline
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Default Re: Do you like this bubble push?

I fold this every time... especially since you have a loose image. The shortest stack always has the widest calling range. There is no value in risking your tournament in this spot.
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Old 07-26-2005, 04:53 AM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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Default Re: Do you like this bubble push?

No I don't like this, you're giving him odds to call with a very wide range of hands, and T3o isn't ahead of enough of them. He only has ~3BB behind after posting the blind
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Old 07-26-2005, 08:58 AM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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Default Re: Do you like this bubble push?

sb+ bb = t900 + t1650 = t2550

t690 remaining, he's getting 4:1. he has to call
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Old 07-26-2005, 08:59 AM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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Default Re: Do you like this bubble push?

That's what I mean. By 'very wide' I was basically including everything bar the absolute crap like 32o. But he has 990 remaining not 690.
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Old 07-26-2005, 11:31 AM
willbb99 willbb99 is offline
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Default Re: Do you like this bubble push?

Since when does only having 6x BB mean that you're not in need of any chips? I think you need chips pretty badly. That being said, I would still wait for a better spot.
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Old 07-26-2005, 11:40 AM
wildzer0 wildzer0 is offline
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Default Re: Do you like this bubble push?

You do need the chips and I push this every time.
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Old 07-26-2005, 11:44 AM
45suited 45suited is offline
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Default Re: Do you like this bubble push?

Especially given this:

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I had been very aggressive in the last two hands and taken down both pots with no showdown.

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Coupled with the fact that BB is in getting the odds to call and needs to gamble, pushing here with 12 SBs is very bad. Not even very close IMO.
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Old 07-26-2005, 11:51 AM
wildzer0 wildzer0 is offline
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Default Re: Do you like this bubble push?

I'm surprised to see everyone saying to fold this. I'm not sure I understand the reasoning. From what I've seen, many opponents are completely willing to fold with only 3bb and some tighten up considerably and hope for someone to bust out first on the bubble. I think hero has a pretty good chance of getting villian to fold here. Combined with the fact that he needs the chips, I think this is a push. I don't have time to do the math at work, but I think that even given a pretty big calling range, this is still a push.
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