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Old 07-20-2005, 08:39 AM
Olback Olback is offline
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Default Re: a,q early

I was never going to fold preflop. The post is about if i should call this persons all in raise preflop.
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Old 07-20-2005, 08:59 AM
wulfheir wulfheir is offline
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I fold A-Q all the way to 7th spot.

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Since I started doing this over the last ~100 games or so, my ITM/ROI have shot way up.
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Old 07-20-2005, 09:30 AM
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It's just ridiculous to fold AQo for 30 chips 2 off the button from a general poker standpoint. It's clearly +EV to call.

I play pretty carefully early in sit and gos and understand folding AQo UTG, I even do it sometimes. But to fold here preflop is just too much, there is only so far you can go before you are giving up on an obviously +EV situation, also a situation that you need to become comfortable being involved in.

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Do you guys *ever* take first????? (Not you curtains) I mean, come on guys this is ridiculous.
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Old 07-20-2005, 12:14 PM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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I do not fold AQo here. I fold it maybe positions 1-3, that's it. I will open limp with it up to CO, from CO or BTN it's obviously a raise if all have folded. If positions 1 and 2 have limped, I'll probably limp along in position 3 even. But otherwise it's limp and not raise for me at level 1-2.
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Old 07-20-2005, 12:24 PM
Wes ManTooth Wes ManTooth is offline
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I do not fold AQo here. I fold it maybe positions 1-3, that's it. I will open limp with it up to CO, from CO or BTN it's obviously a raise if all have folded. If positions 1 and 2 have limped, I'll probably limp along in position 3 even. But otherwise it's limp and not raise for me at level 1-2.

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well said, even with the hero having a good stack its not worth a raise.
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Old 07-20-2005, 02:57 PM
willbb99 willbb99 is offline
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Default Re: a,q early

Do you know how the villain lost so many chips early on in the game? I think this information would be useful in your decision.
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:29 PM
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Yeah I was responding to pergesu who said to fold.
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Old 07-20-2005, 06:00 PM
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I fold A-Q all the way to 7th spot.

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Since I started doing this over the last ~100 games or so, my ITM/ROI have shot way up.

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AQo is on my "Favourable Conditions" list. I need the pot to be unraised, and I need one of the last two positions for these hands AQo, AJs, KQo. I need the last four positions for AQs and KQs, and I muck every PP below 88 unless I'm in the SB.

Too toight?
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Old 07-20-2005, 06:01 PM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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I think that is a bit too tight, yes. However, I don't touch KQo with a barge pole, it only ever makes second-best hands.
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Old 07-20-2005, 06:09 PM
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Way too tight. Also AQ and AJs are in a completely different class than KQo. Please remember your opponents are VERY bad at poker and give their money on garbage flops with weak hands. When you have a hand that has a good chance to make top pair top kicker, or some other great hand, and you can get in cheaply, you should usually take that oppurtunity.
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