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Old 12-11-2005, 12:12 AM
gildwulf gildwulf is offline
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Default 5/10 4-flush and TPMK

Opponent is typical over-aggressive and LAGGY (44/17/2.6).

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $7.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, MP folds.

Flop: (5.80 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.90 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.90 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.90 BB
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:21 AM
mikeyworm mikeyworm is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 4-flush and TPMK

I'd fold the turn. And then I'd fold the river.
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Old 12-11-2005, 01:32 AM
hemstock hemstock is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 4-flush and TPMK

I can't find any good reason to call the turn. Tell me 1 possible hand that you beat and I'll tell you 10 that you don't. Your outs to improve (if you really have any) are very very slim.
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Old 12-11-2005, 01:49 AM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 4-flush and TPMK

Is he going crazy with TT or A5 here? Probably not.

You check and show weakness on the turn...but that's okay because I don't think he's going to bet at it if he doesn't at least have you J's beat.

You can almost consider bet-folding the turn just to make sure. but if he wasn't on the flush-draw, then that means he certainly has enough of a hand where he's going to call down your represented flush.

Turn fold and then river fold are both correct I think
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Old 12-11-2005, 02:15 AM
LoaferGee12 LoaferGee12 is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 4-flush and TPMK

Given the aggression of this guy, I would've just called that flop and check-raised the turn. Once I see the king tho I go in to call-down mode.
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Old 12-11-2005, 04:04 AM
smartalecc5 smartalecc5 is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 4-flush and TPMK

Its surprising to see all of you guys advocate fold the turn. Maybe this is a leak of mine. 95% of the time if i flop top pair I'll see a showdown. eeks
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Old 12-11-2005, 04:37 AM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 4-flush and TPMK

OK...I just saw that the read on this guy is that he is really LAGgy.
With that in mind you have to call down.
With those kind of stats he really could be doing this with a worse hand than J's and is just trying to push you out with the big, bad, scary flush-card.

I've called-down after capped flops and scary turns and the opponent can end up showing UI 86o or something.
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Old 12-11-2005, 07:23 AM
Peter Harris Peter Harris is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 4-flush and TPMK

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I've called-down after capped flops and scary turns and the opponent can end up showing UI 86o or something.

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yeah but on this board he'd river the straight [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I think if you have a solid read that this person is a habitual bluffer then you can see a SD, but i feel icky doing it.
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