QQ -- folding the overpair on the flop

[jba]

CO is 54/4.7/1.34 wtsd=29
BB is 78/16/.8 over 150

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (16 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero folds

[LoaferGee12]

Couldn't CO easily have JJ/TT /AKd here?

[yellowjack]

This is close.

The best case scenario is that both BB and CO have JJ-88 or AK/AQ. Even if they do, the AK could be Ad Kd and we're still slightly behind. If someone has AA or KK we're way behind.

This could be a leak, but I prefer to 3-bet flop and call a cap, and re-evaluate on turn. If it's a single bet to us on the turn &amp; river then call down. Bet when checked to on turn/river, and fold to a checkraise though, I don't see JJ-99 checkraising us on a later street.

[Peter Harris]

i couldn't do this.

Neither can i play 5/10. So goot thing.

You could be ahead of 99-JJ, AK-AQ and behind to KK, AA and behind in equity to A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. But with 2 players in and raising it dont look goooooot do it.

Hmm i dunno. More theoretical sources required.

[spydog]

OMG. I can't believe anyone is telling you to fold this. 3-bet and call down a cap. Otherwise, keep betting and check behind an ace/king river.

[Spicymoose]

Wow. They sure are passive, but I don't think I could fold yet. BB could easily have overcards at this point, so nothing to worry about from him. CO might have 99, TT, JJ, QQ, high diamonds. I think this is a pretty bad fold. Raise and take it from there.