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Old 11-08-2005, 11:49 AM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: You, sir, are not a fish (LC)

I'm pretty sure he wouldnt, BUT:

Would you make the same move with:
1. Pair + Flushdraw 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] for example
3. Gutshot + Flushdraw 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] for example
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Old 11-08-2005, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: You, sir, are not a fish (LC)

Leaving that table is -EV.
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: You, sir, are not a fish (LC)

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Leaving that table is -EV.

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Why? I think villain had a nice read on Ghaz's play and got him to stick it in as a very slight dog. There are easier places to make money than against someone who might have just outplayed you. I have no problem with the hit n run here.
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: You, sir, are not a fish (LC)

This wasn't a hit and run and I was actually a favorite when the money went in.
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: You, sir, are not a fish (LC)

Ghazban was a favourite in this hand but thats besides the point. What type of player 3-bets AK here? What hands call that push? Hands that are beating AKo.

I like bad players at my table.
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:43 PM
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This wasn't a hit and run and I was actually a favorite when the money went in.

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Sorry [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] forget you were open ended and not gut shot. Anyway, I still think your decision to leave was fine.
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:44 PM
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Ghazban was a favourite in this hand but thats besides the point. What type of player 3-bets AK here? What hands call that push? Hands that are beating AKo.

I like bad players at my table.

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Villain did not play this hand badly IMO. Had I been raising on a naked flush or straight draw, he would've forced me to fold. 4-handed, he might even get a call from AQ/AJ.
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:44 PM
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Sorry [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] forget you were open ended and not gut shot. Anyway, I still think your decision to leave was fine.

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why, now do this the next few times with set/2-pair and watch top pair go all-in with you again
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:48 PM
Ghazban Ghazban is offline
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Default Re: You, sir, are not a fish (LC)

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Sorry [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] forget you were open ended and not gut shot. Anyway, I still think your decision to leave was fine.

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why, now do this the next few times with set/2-pair and watch top pair go all-in with you again

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It is faulty thinking to assume the villain will always play TPTK like this just because he did it once. If you never play AK like he did, you are leaving money on the table.
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:52 PM
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is this play standard with an OESFD?
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