fold aces to bluff?

mudbuddha · #1 10-03-2005, 02:31 PM

no reads really, about 2-3 hands in..
.50/1 NL.. (100 max)

comments on all streets appreciated

Seat 1 : echan01 has $94.50
Seat 2 : n98miceh has $94
Seat 3 : AAplz has $47.75
Seat 4 : Rioja has $90
Seat 5 : BIG SNOWMAN has $43.75
Seat 6 : Mad Frankie has $114.75
n98miceh is the dealer.
AAplz posted small blind.
Rioja posted big blind.
Game [103403] started with 6 players.
Dealing Hole Cards.
Seat 1 : echan01 has Ah Ad
BIG SNOWMAN called $1
Mad Frankie folded.
echan01 called $1 and raised $3
n98miceh called $4
AAplz folded.
Rioja folded.
[BIG SNOWMAN folded.
Dealing flop.
Board cards [Tc Td 9h]
[echan01 bet $5
n98miceh called $5
Dealing turn.
Board cards [Tc Td 9h 2c]
echan01 checked.
n98miceh bet $5
echan01 called $5 and raised $10
n98miceh called $10
Dealing river.
Board cards [Tc Td 9h 2c 3c]
echan01 bet $20
n98miceh called $20 and raised $50 and is All-in
echan01 has 10 seconds to respond.
echan01 folded.
n98miceh wins $87.50 as the last player standing

#2 10-03-2005, 02:41 PM

probably do the same as you and fold... but complete read on your opponent. no books can tell you what to do.

mudbuddha · #3 10-03-2005, 02:42 PM

books?

Ojo_Rojo · #4 10-03-2005, 02:55 PM

Why the check-raise on the turn?

Ojo_Rojo

wall_st · #5 10-03-2005, 02:56 PM

Ick, why did you check raise the turn ? I am probably just going to fold the turn (but might just call trying to get a cheap showdown) but I am DEFINETLY folding the river. The backdoor club flush came in and to be honest he probably has a ten. If he showed you a bluff good for him (as the title implies) but don't be results oriented it's not like you knew he was bluffing here.

BTW I probably bet the pot (or close to it) on the flop then begin to hate my hand on the turn. Playing this hand without position by leading out on every street on this flop is a recipe for disaster.

mudbuddha · #6 10-03-2005, 03:04 PM

yeah the check raise was just.. i dont know.. bad.
but i figured either i was WA/WB.. but after a weak ass bet i figured i was WA.. so i raised...
continued my betting but then he went nuts
.. he didnt show bluff.
i dont know what to think...

#7 10-03-2005, 03:22 PM

i know you didn't mention books, but i just meant it's a pure call on your opponent. no theory fits into it other than harrington would say there's a decent chance your opponent is bluffing

i guess on further reflection that you are going to be pretty wounded anyhow no matter which way it goes and pretty good chance he's bluffing.

mudbuddha · #8 10-03-2005, 03:32 PM

the more and more i think i may have folded to JJ-KK
but blah