Pokerroom vs. Party rake analysis at $2/$4 (Pokerrom 73% higher!)

Uglyowl · #1 08-31-2005, 03:46 PM

Method, I took 3 "average" tables from Pokertracker and the first 60 hands of each table. I applied the 180 hands to the rake structure of both Party and Pokerroom.

The rake taken percentage on average as size of the pot is as follows:

Party Poker: 3.36%
Pokerrrom: 5.84%

Average table defined by taking average pot over 40,000 hands. Found the 3 tables closest to this that had a large enough sample size.

Pot$ Pokerroom Party
2 $0.00 $0.00
4 $0.00 $0.00
6 $0.00 $0.00
8 $0.80 $0.00
10 $0.80 $0.00
12 $0.80 $0.00
14 $0.80 $0.00
16 $0.80 $0.00
18 $0.80 $0.00
20 $0.80 $1.00
22 $0.80 $1.00
24 $2.00 $1.00
26 $2.00 $1.00
28 $2.00 $1.00
30 $2.00 $1.50
32 $2.00 $1.50
34 $2.00 $1.50
36 $2.00 $1.50
38 $2.00 $1.50
40 $2.00 $2.00
42 $2.00 $2.00
44 $2.00 $2.00
46 $2.00 $2.00
48 $3.00 $2.00
50 $3.00 $2.50
52 $3.00 $2.50
54 $3.00 $2.50
56 $3.00 $2.50
58 $3.00 $2.50
60 $3.00 $3.00
62 $3.00 $3.00

Freudian · #2 08-31-2005, 03:54 PM

But you have to remember it is more fair now!

ZBTHorton · #3 08-31-2005, 03:56 PM

hey pokerroom..respond to this thread!

theben · #4 08-31-2005, 03:58 PM

screw those greedy pokerroom people. before, only their site was crappy and bonus totally blew.

wateronrock · #5 08-31-2005, 03:58 PM

Haahahhahahah good one [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] .

Good job Uglyowl. Those greedy foookers.

This shite ain't gonna fly PokerRoom. Can you hear us?

Uglyowl · #6 08-31-2005, 04:02 PM

FWIW, it costs the average player 1.4bb/100 over the Party structure!

Try overcoming that, especially the marginally winning players like myself.

PrincipalSkinner · #7 08-31-2005, 04:10 PM

Actually it IS more fair now:

Pokerroom is 73% worse than Party before considering rake.
Pokeroom rake is 73% worse than Party.

Sounds fair to me . . .

phredd · #8 08-31-2005, 04:50 PM

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FWIW, it costs the average player 1.4bb/100 over the Party structure!

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Can you please explain how you arrived at that figure? I'm not questioning the conclusion, necessarily, I'm just having a hard time figuring out how you moved from a pot percentage to big bets per hundred hands.

Thanks.

Uglyowl · #9 08-31-2005, 05:00 PM

Sure no problem.

Using my analysis the extra rake is $0.548/hand.

The average player wins 10 of 100 hands say paying an extry $5.48.

$5.48/$4 (lost rake/big bet) = 1.37bb/100 extra lost

If you need anything else clarified I will be happy to.

goodguy_1 · #10 08-31-2005, 07:27 PM

from datamining and I have learned over time that the average player at Party pays ~2.44bb/100 or $9.76 per 100 hands in rake at $2-4 LHE -dont forget this is from a sample with 30K players so that includes alot of losers that play too many hands [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

how does that fit in to your data owl? nice job