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Re: How Many Suckouts Do You Make In Your Tourney Wins?
last week when i won the 180 man 20+2 i delivered 2 suckouts with about 15 left.
My QQ vs AA and then when i reraised all in the table bully when i had 98 in the BB and he called w/ Q10 the board A 4 10 J Q for a straight, It was beautiful |
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Re: How Many Suckouts Do You Make In Your Tourney Wins?
In my big wins I always had a few suckouts along the way, but I think another key factor is that when i did suckout I was rarely in for MY tournament life when it happened. Like if some nit finally pushes w/ AA from the button on a stack of 3 BBs, and I call from the BB on a monster stack w/ 54s and crack AA I don't really think it should even be considered a suckout.
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Re: How Many Suckouts Do You Make In Your Tourney Wins?
I agree with that the different kinds of luck are key. We don't usually think of doubling or tripling up with AA or KK as getting lucky, but it is extremely lucky that some donk decided to go to felt with 99 or AJ pre-flop, or that you hit your set when someone else hit TPTK. Once you get the big stack, you can survive the inevitable come-from-ahead losses when your AK gets cracked by shorty's A7, so your "bad luck" doesn't end your tournament the way it would if you had a medium stack.
That said, with a couple of exceptions, in every largeish tournament that I've FTed, I've had to hit my 2- or 3-outer at least once, but usually twice. |
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Re: How Many Suckouts Do You Make In Your Tourney Wins?
[ QUOTE ]
: How Many Suckouts Do You Make In Your Tourney Wins? [/ QUOTE ] All of them. Regards, Woodguy |
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Re: How Many Suckouts Do You Make In Your Tourney Wins?
Sucking out while making +EV decisions is normal and all tourney players do this, some very often. Sucking out making -EV decisions is a major leak.
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Re: How Many Suckouts Do You Make In Your Tourney Wins?
Quite a few, sometimes. It depends... I'm usually making more suckouts if I've gotten lucky enough to get a big stack early because I'm doing much more gambling and pushing around the short stacks.
I don't like to be all in very often and I've found the less frequently I'm playing for all my chips on one hand the better my results are. Luck is always a factor... my luck usually comes from getting big hands paid off or winning races at the right time. Occasionally I'll get it in as a dog, sometimes even knowingly, but I try to avoid that. Also, no dumb mistakes. That helps a lot. |
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Re: How Many Suckouts Do You Make In Your Tourney Wins?
Just 1. The last hand of a 350 person tourney on Pokerroom. I had A3c, other guy had 33 (had a 2.5 - 1 chip lead by this time). Flopped an A to win. Other marginal hands: AJc against 55 on a board of Tc 9s 9c. rivered a club.
A3s against 33 on a board of 6s 4s 2h. riverd an Ace. Other than that, always got my money in with the best of it. |
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Re: How Many Suckouts Do You Make In Your Tourney Wins?
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Other marginal hands: AJc against 55 on a board of Tc 9s 9c. [/ QUOTE ] Actually, you are a 3:2 favorite here. |
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Re: How Many Suckouts Do You Make In Your Tourney Wins?
I believe 2 to 4 suckouts per 200 hands or so is what I experience on the way to just about every final table I experience.
Usually it's a pair against pair battle where I have cut it a little too fine in my estimation of relative strength. |
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Re: How Many Suckouts Do You Make In Your Tourney Wins?
Every hand I win is a suckout.
At least according to my opponents. |
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