Defending with TJs

obsidian · #1 11-16-2005, 01:33 AM

Going through some old hands and found this. My stats showed this guy as 40/18/1.6 with 40% atsb.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP raises, Hero calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB

#2 11-16-2005, 01:35 AM

Check-raise the flop. If he 3 bets you peel one off then make a decision on the turn. If he calls and raises you on one of the big streets, fold.

imported_leader · #3 11-16-2005, 05:06 AM

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Check-raise the flop. If he 3 bets you peel one off then make a decision on the turn. If he calls and raises you on one of the big streets, fold.

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#4 11-16-2005, 05:25 AM

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Check-raise the flop. If he 3 bets you peel one off then make a decision on the turn. If he calls and raises you on one of the big streets, fold.

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i think checkraising the flop is so stereotypical for blind battles.

i think with the bet/call on the flop, either c/c turn c/c river or b/f turn

imported_leader · #5 11-16-2005, 05:29 AM

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Check-raise the flop. If he 3 bets you peel one off then make a decision on the turn. If he calls and raises you on one of the big streets, fold.

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i think checkraising the flop is so stereotypical for blind battles.

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I don't understand how that's an argument against a c/r. I mean capping the river is so stereotypical of having the nuts so just call next time [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

JackThree · #6 11-16-2005, 05:33 AM

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Check-raise the flop. If he 3 bets you peel one off then make a decision on the turn. If he calls and raises you on one of the big streets, fold.

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i think checkraising the flop is so stereotypical for blind battles.

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I don't understand how that's an argument against a c/r. I mean capping the river is so stereotypical of having the nuts so just call next time [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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ahhhhh that's [censored] hilarious

TheMetetron · #7 11-16-2005, 09:41 AM

Yeah, you really need to check/raise this.

TMFS9 · #8 11-16-2005, 10:12 AM

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If he calls and raises you on one of the big streets, fold.

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You take this line you are very likely to get pushed of the best hand by free showdown raises with Aces and lower pp's.

7ontheline · #9 11-16-2005, 11:45 AM

C/ring the flop HU is stereotypical because it works. Personally I c/r my big hands, my draws, and my occasional bluffs so it's hard to tell what I have. You can pretty much count on the autobet continuation on the flop from the PFR. A guy with theses stats isn't going to check it. I like c/r flop, lead all streets or call down if raised.

obsidian · #10 11-16-2005, 11:53 AM

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Yeah, you really need to check/raise this.

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Yea, I think this is correct most likely. Lately I've been mixing it up between donking and c/r'ing as I feel that people underestimate the strength of donking a lot (especially on 2 flush boards), and will call down more with low to mid PPs and A or even K high more often.

Oh, and villain showed Q9s (no flush draw) and MHIG.