side pot w/ the nuts - need a plan. 5/10 6max

[gomberg]

UTG ($1600) raises to $30. He's tight postflop, but average preflop. I call on the button w/ Ad3d ($1700). SB calls ($100). BB folds.

Flop ($100). 2d6dKs. SB goeas all-in for $70, UTG calls, I call.

Turn ($310). 8d. UTG bets out $100, Hero...

UTG has a set, AK, or a smaller flush and has about $1250 left after his bet - what's the best plan? He probably views me as a little crazy - but he knows I won't get too out of line here...

I think I would call the bet and then overbet the pot to any non- [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] river to try to make it look like I'm on a steal with a busted draw. This risks the board pairing on the river, but I think I'm willing to take that chance. If the river is a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I just try to sell the hand for what I think he will call. Thoughts?

[xorbie]

Raises to $300. He's not putting much in with a pair no matter what, so might as well get the max out of his bigger hands.

[AZK]

ever raise the flop in this situation?

[gomberg]

Not usually - I'm a sucker for odds in this situation, and if UTG also has a flush draw, I want him in the pot - plus, i have position, so don't mind seeing a turn here. A lot more good can happen with a call than a raise in my mind - although the dead money is tempting - part of the problem is how deep we are, and if I raise and he comes over the top, I'm toast, whereas if I hit and he has a hand, I'll win some good money.

[AZK]

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Not usually - I'm a sucker for odds in this situation, and if UTG also has a flush draw, I want him in the pot - plus, i have position, so don't mind seeing a turn here. A lot more good can happen with a call than a raise in my mind - although the dead money is tempting - part of the problem is how deep we are, and if I raise and he comes over the top, I'm toast, whereas if I hit and he has a hand, I'll win some good money.

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Good stuff. So when would you raise with more than 2k and less than 500?

[flawless_victory]

well this guy can easily have a v big hand here, right? he just called the allin so it looks like he wanted to trap you. id raise the turn to 500 and cross my fngers.

[flawless_victory]

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ever raise the flop in this situation?

[/ QUOTE ]raising the flop looks pretty bad here. youre totally opening yourself up for no reason.

[gomberg]

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Good stuff. So when would you raise with more than 2k and less than 500?

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Well, I think if you can only raise around the pot, then it's probably correct to do so. With more than that, I'm not sure. It's really bad to be blown off this hand on the flop.

[fsuplayer]

pf and flop look great.

raising this flop when you already have position is no good at all.


you have to raise this turn, to at least 300, but i like 350-400 better, let him push with AA or KK.