semi bluff makes it oop, 200nl 6max

[Voltron87]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

BB ($81.70)
UTG ($109.95)
Hero ($196.40)
CO ($50)
Button ($246.27)
SB ($193.70)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, Button calls $15.

Turn: ($49) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $30</font>, hero raises all in for 180 or so, button folds

Final Pot: 250 or so



I feel like I really botched this. That's all. I checkraised all in on the turn, if my edits werent clear.

[ScottTheFish]

Call the turn? Or at least raise a lot less. maybe to 80 or so.

Call is probably best. The K is probably a scare card for him, and there really isn't a river card that can worry you much.

[-Skeme-]

What do you think calls your all in? Not much. You have a virtual lock on this hand, an all in is pretty much butchering it. Just a raise a normal amount of you're gonna CR, jamming lets too many hands get away.

i like a check min-raise better here, plenty of players with any piece or a weaker flush draw will call you, and he probably wont call any decent river bet anyway, i think this is your only chance to get any more chips out of him unless he pairs an ace on the river or hits his set....personally i put villian on 88-99 here, but i personally dont play

Who said raise to $80-ish on the turn? That looks right.

[Voltron87]

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What do you think calls your all in? Not much. You have a virtual lock on this hand, an all in is pretty much butchering it. Just a raise a normal amount of you're gonna CR, jamming lets too many hands get away.

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i had been pretty laggy, i was raising a lot and had two bluffs (in smaller 15-20ish pots) shown up. but given the way the hand played out the K was not a great card for him so i screwed myself over.



does anyone prefer check calling check raising the river?

[elus2]

lead the turn and the river for 3/4 pot each time. if he's drawing to a lower flush or oesd you don't want him checking behind on the turn. if he's loose enough he might call you down with 1 pair.

[TheWorstPlayer]

Um...bet the turn? Perfect card, why not bet? You want value from his J and you want to protect against the NFD.

[chumsferd]

I don't think you are semi-bluffing the majority of the time on this turn, sounds like you know that though. No better hands are folding here, plenty of worse ones are.

Default play vs a unknown player: I lead the turn for 1/2-3/4s pot and check raise most rivers all in. If the river comes a non-spade 5 or T then I might just check call the river, depending on their bet size (if they bet). If you hadn't spiked the K on the turn, I'd prefer your line...

Edit: man I need to learn to type better...

[Voltron87]

my craptacular thinking at the time was that the king might have looked like it helped me, so i thought i might lose the bet id get by CRing.

i think leading the turn and 2/3 pot is correct now.