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Old 12-22-2005, 09:40 PM
HiatusOver HiatusOver is offline
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Default First Things First, flop decision

38/16/1.30 opens for a raise in the Hi-Jack, I 3-bet 88 in the SB.

Flop Q42 with 2 club. I bet 3-bet the flop. Standard?
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Old 12-23-2005, 08:59 AM
DeeJ DeeJ is offline
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Default Re: First Things First, flop decision

i hate the snowmen

I would check-raise the flop here with only one overcard, since it's almost certain he'll bet. If he doesn't, you may be able to take him down on the turn as a turn bet can have a reasonable chance of taking it down even if he called a check-raise representing a Q. Any reraising and I'm out.
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Old 12-23-2005, 09:03 AM
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Default Re: First Things First, flop decision

I think your line is pretty standard, and probably the best one most of the time.
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:50 PM
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I think your line is pretty standard, and probably the best one most of the time.

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would the same apply if the board was rainbow?
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Old 12-23-2005, 09:03 AM
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Default Re: First Things First, flop decision

Certainly not standard. This is one of those situations where you have to mix it up. Your play is reasonable to take some of the time. But realize you have gone out on a limb with aggression here.

I think it's reasonable to sometimes fold when he raises your flop bet. And sometimes call, and sometimes raise like you did.
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Old 12-23-2005, 09:14 AM
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Assuming you 3 bet the flop and bet the turn. If rags come, do you bet the river? My guess is that this player will be betting the river with hands that beat you, so it is probably best to bet. Do you guys think that the villian will be checking better hands on the river?
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Old 12-23-2005, 09:29 AM
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Assuming you 3 bet the flop and bet the turn. If rags come, do you bet the river?

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yeah, u pretty much have to.
i like this just fine BTW...
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Old 12-23-2005, 02:47 PM
HiatusOver HiatusOver is offline
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Default Re: First Things First, flop decision

OK so noone hates the flop...

Turn comes another Q.

I bet, opponent raises. Now I know the default play is to lay it down, but I cant help to think that he thinks that I think he has a queen and is trying to re-represent it with this card. Is it worth a few more big bets to see a showdown here?
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Old 12-23-2005, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: First Things First, flop decision

i'm deeeefinitely seeing a showdown here. He could certianly have A4, 22-77, etc.
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Old 12-23-2005, 05:32 PM
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OK so noone hates the flop...

Turn comes another Q.

I bet, opponent raises. Now I know the default play is to lay it down, but I cant help to think that he thinks that I think he has a queen and is trying to re-represent it with this card. Is it worth a few more big bets to see a showdown here?

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the flop line is standard for me and i like it. basically what paluka said,

however i think you should go with your reads regarding the turn. if you think he thinks you think he has a queen (no joke there) then i would go to the showdown.

poker's about everything but the cards

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