Johnny Damon signs with Yankees

[jdl22]

sublime,

In this thread you have repeatedly stated or given evidence that this is a bad deal for the Yankees in terms of value per dollar. This you have done well, however you have yet to discuss why that matters.

George clearly doesn't care about value per dollar. He's getting another high profile guy that will bring in more publicity and merchandise money. Furthermore, he's getting the best available guy on the free-agent market (correct me if I'm wrong here as I could be). He's clearly more than happy to pay through the nose in luxury tax. Will this signing prevent the Yankees from getting players they need in the future? If so I could see your point but I'm not sure that's the case.

If George doesn't care about value, and the Yankees won't be prevented from getting players they need down the road then it's still a good deal even if it is atrocious in terms of value.

THIS SIGNING ROCKS FOR THE YANKS!!!

and it's obvious how painful it is for the red sox fans, as they immediately try to mock it with RIDICULOUS points.

HAHA!! u guys got the rug pulled out from under you AGAIN!!!

HAAAA HAAAAA!!!!

Think of the lineup 1. Damon, 2. jeter, 3. A-Rod 4. Sheffield 5. Giambi, 6. Matsui, 7. All the other guys they're gonna get this offseason!!!

Starting: Randy Johnson, set up: Dotel, closer: Rivera

Ahh, the joy of being a yankee fan!!! thanks yet again, Steinbrenner!!!

[Jack of Arcades]

uh, yeah, most yankee fans I know hate this deal

...and do you guys realize that Damon fits exactly what the yankees need: 1. a true leadoff hitter, 2. a star centerfielder.

FANTASTIC MOVE BY THE YANKS.

and damon is worth at least 11 million a year.

--and now the Red Sox look like fools.

[craig r]

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...and do you guys realize that Damon fits exactly what the yankees need: 1. a true leadoff hitter, 2. a star centerfielder.

FANTASTIC MOVE BY THE YANKS.

and damon is worth at least 11 million a year.

--and now the Red Sox look like fools.

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Fine, I will be a homer fool. Someone hold the money and we can bet (Sublime, Clarkmeister, etc..) that BOS will win more games than NYY (same record is a push). Tell me for how much.

craig

[rwperu34]

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...and do you guys realize that Damon fits exactly what the yankees need: 1. a true leadoff hitter, 2. a star centerfielder.

FANTASTIC MOVE BY THE YANKS.

and damon is worth at least 11 million a year.

--and now the Red Sox look like fools.

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Fine, I will be a homer fool. Someone hold the money and we can bet (Sublime, Clarkmeister, etc..) that BOS will win more games than NYY (same record is a push). Tell me for how much.

craig

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I'll take the Yankees.

[craig r]

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...and do you guys realize that Damon fits exactly what the yankees need: 1. a true leadoff hitter, 2. a star centerfielder.

FANTASTIC MOVE BY THE YANKS.

and damon is worth at least 11 million a year.

--and now the Red Sox look like fools.

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Fine, I will be a homer fool. Someone hold the money and we can bet (Sublime, Clarkmeister, etc..) that BOS will win more games than NYY (same record is a push). Tell me for how much.

craig

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I'll take the Yankees.

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The guy that is being dumb gets first shot. But, if he doesn't take it, sure. What amount are you thinking? Who on here should we ask to hold the money?

craig

i'll bet $1000 on the Yankees. let's give it to Mason Malmuth. I bet he'd help us out.

but i know you wont do it because your just another red sox coward-- ALL TALK. NO LOGIC OR $$$ TO BACK IT UP.

guys, if this guy backs out of this. dont let him forget it

BACK IT UP , COWARD RED SOX FAN! BACK IT UP.

[craig r]

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i'll bet $1000 on the Yankees. let's give it to Mason Malmuth. I bet he'd help us out.

but i know you wont do it because your just another red sox coward-- ALL TALK. NO LOGIC OR $$$ TO BACK IT UP.

guys, if this guy backs out of this. dont let him forget it

BACK IT UP , COWARD RED SOX FAN! BACK IT UP.

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$500 and you got it. And don't try to back out by saying it isn't enough. Also, Mason isn't going to hold it. Why would he? Actually, fine, a grand it is.

craig

[sublime]

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sublime,

In this thread you have repeatedly stated or given evidence that this is a bad deal for the Yankees in terms of value per dollar. This you have done well, however you have yet to discuss why that matters.

George clearly doesn't care about value per dollar. He's getting another high profile guy that will bring in more publicity and merchandise money. Furthermore, he's getting the best available guy on the free-agent market (correct me if I'm wrong here as I could be). He's clearly more than happy to pay through the nose in luxury tax. Will this signing prevent the Yankees from getting players they need in the future? If so I could see your point but I'm not sure that's the case.

If George doesn't care about value, and the Yankees won't be prevented from getting players they need down the road then it's still a good deal even if it is atrocious in terms of value.

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i agree with everything you said, and i think my stance on these 'deal breakdowns' gets lost in translation. i love baseball, i love watching baseball, listening to baseball, and reading about baseball. however, the on the field game doesn't interest me as much as the business behind the game. when i see a deal get signed, i immediately want to see what the potential EV is on the field, and if the team made a wise investment. i do it for every player, from johnny damon to rudy seanez. this differentiates me from most *cough* fans, as they go by their perceptions of players and what they 'think' they are worth, while i try to apply math to the situation.

so when i say, johnny damon isn't worth 13m a year compared to his counterparts some people interpret that as a bashing of the player. its not.

as for the yankees, i was convinced they were finally taking a hard stance and were going to rebuld on the fly. deals like this prevent that from happening. while some can say only the yankees can afford to do deals like this, one could also counter that they are a team that CANT afford to do a deal like this. sooner or later the piper will need to be paid. you cant continue to field teams with high priced free agents and not having any homegrown/cheap talent to replace them.