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Old 12-05-2005, 12:57 AM
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- All similarities between things are merely concepts
- All concepts about things are merely constructs from our mind, despite whether or not they correlate with the reality of particulars
- All things are particulars
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Old 12-05-2005, 01:05 AM
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Reminds me of Hume
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Old 12-05-2005, 01:07 AM
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yes, yes and yes.
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Old 12-05-2005, 01:21 AM
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Implications?
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Old 12-05-2005, 01:43 AM
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Pretending I know what your terms mean (added lettering to your statements for reference)-

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-(A) All similarities between things are merely concepts
- (B) All concepts about things are merely constructs from our mind, despite whether or not they correlate with the reality of particulars
- (C) All things are particulars

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If B is true, then A seems an overstatement. At the least, the concept of similarity is not about things but about the the concepts we have of them. So, those times when the concepts do correlate to the reality of particulars the similarity will be an actuality, regardless of whether the concepts reflect the particulars in any meaningful way.
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Old 12-05-2005, 02:02 AM
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Implications?

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those entities holding concepts that bear no worthwhile relationship to the actual nature of particular things will likely have been trampled by woolly mammoths that were conceptualized as rocks, or eaten by marsupial bears when they were construed as rabbits.
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Old 12-05-2005, 08:54 AM
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Reminds me of Hume

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And perhaps Peter Aberlard's view sometimes referred to moderate nominalism This compromise position between nominalism and realismis is called Conceptualism. This is the view that rejects realism, but holds that universals are more than merely name words. The words stand for universal concepts, objective only in the sense that they are independent of subjective naming.
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Old 12-05-2005, 09:00 AM
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- All similarities between things are merely concepts
- All concepts about things are merely constructs from our mind, despite whether or not they correlate with the reality of particulars
- All things are particulars

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1. No - a perfect (or indeed imperfect) replica of something is similar, concepts nonwithstanding
2. Yes
3. No if you mean 'a specific instance of a thing' by the term 'particular'
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Old 12-05-2005, 10:49 AM
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- All similarities between things are merely concepts
- All concepts about things are merely constructs from our mind, despite whether or not they correlate with the reality of particulars
- All things are particulars

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- not sure what this means, similarities could be objective but concepts are subjective.
- true
- not sure what this means, are concepts things?

reminds me of Wittgenstien except I thought I understood one.

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Old 12-05-2005, 12:16 PM
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(By particular I mean individual in the sense that it is unique.)

Also, if something is a replica of something else, it must be wholly similar to that something else. To say X = Y with the condition that X need to be +Q is not the condition of X = Y as you claim - rather it is the condition of X + Q = Y.

The first point stresses that since each individual thing is unique, any similarities found between two things must come from something outside those two things - presumably our mind. An example of this could be where an ancient astronomer discovers two very distant stars, both of which appear exactly the same to him. Both these stars must have different histories and compisitions, but still, they appear to be merely two dots of light to him and exactly the same to the point where they are different by number alone.
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