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Old 10-13-2002, 01:00 AM
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Default Re: Scratch handicappers have fewer putts

Ray Zee,
Lower handicap golfers generally average fewer putts per round than higher handicap golfers. You are right that hi hdcp golfers miss more greens, but they are also poor chippers and putters.

Joey,
15:1 might be a bit much, but you are at least in the right ball park. That's the reason I mentioned Bethpage Black, to emphasize the difference in putting ability. Better players will separate themselves more in more difficult environments. (Hence the impossibility of Tigerproofing golf courses). Thanks for your response, and good luck with your game.
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Old 10-13-2002, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: Scratch handicappers have fewer putts

yes but the scratch golfer still cant compete with putt numbers against a player that shoots in the 80,s. he will just be much closer to the pin when its his time to putt. even if he chips poorly dont you think he will be closer than someone who just hit a four iron to the green or even a sand wedge from 50 yards out.
or what about the old men golfers that never get to the green until about four shots then chip up close and one putt.
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Old 10-13-2002, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: Scratch handicappers have fewer putts

Sorry Ray, you're off on this one. Scratch golfers have fewer putts, by a long shot, when compared to 13 handicappers. They putt better, they chip & pitch WAY better. At a difficult course such as Bethpage Black, it's even more extreme as the scratches will be missing a lot of greens themselves, and chipping up. 30.43 is dead last on the PGA tour this year for average putts per round. This is a dream average for the vast majority of 13 handicaps. (Of course PGA players are a lot better than scratch, but this should give some perspective).
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Old 10-13-2002, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: Scratch handicappers have fewer putts

okay say the average 13 hits an average green in three. thats 54 strokes. plus 30 putts. thats 84. around a 13 handicap i guess. few scratch golfers will do 30 putts unless the couse is long and they are chipping all the time. but i will defer to your guess.
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Old 10-15-2002, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: golf...need info

this is imperfect
how is handisap determined for this 90 or 80 %
what assumptions are we making concerning putting vs scoring
correlations
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Old 10-18-2002, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: golf...need info

We do not know the actual probability of course, it would be impossible to figure out, even if we had tonnes more information. But, the probability does exist. The question is legitimate, and has an answer out there in the ether. We were simply taking guesses as to what this probability would be.
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