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Old 12-05-2005, 12:00 PM
housenuts housenuts is offline
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Default why do i win more at 15/30 and 30/60 than 5/10?

I don't understand this. Why do I win more at the higher levels? I think it is because there aren't as many stupid fish!!!! I mean at 5/10 and 3/6 people always suck out on me. I'll cap it preflop, and then check-raise someone on the flop with AA and they will hit a runner-runner straight to beat me! I think I should just play at the higher levels because this doesn't happen and you can actually bluff people and they will fold when they have runner-runner draws instead of always sucking out!
What do you think? Should I move up permanently?
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:03 PM
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Default Re: why do i win more at 15/30 and 30/60 than 5/10?

Your sample size at the lower limits is too large. Play fewer hands at those limits and post your numbers then.
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:20 PM
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Default Re: why do i win more at 15/30 and 30/60 than 5/10?

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Your sample size at the lower limits is too large. Play fewer hands at those limits and post your numbers then.

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Ignore these sarcastic replies. The truth is that it's much easier to win money against better players. That's why the better players are all losers.
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: why do i win more at 15/30 and 30/60 than 5/10?

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Ignore these sarcastic replies. The truth is that it's much easier to win money against better players. That's why the better players are all losers.

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well i don't think i could beat like phil ivey or gus hansen but it would probably be easier to beat them than beat all 9 people that see the flop at 2/4. that's why 15/30 is better because only 3 or 4 people see the flop and then you can bluff them
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Old 12-05-2005, 11:25 PM
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well i don't think i could beat like phil ivey or gus hansen but it would probably be easier to beat them than beat all 9 people that see the flop at 2/4. that's why 15/30 is better because only 3 or 4 people see the flop and then you can bluff them

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I used to feel this way also, that playing higher limits i was able to put moves on other players more and thus win more. I do question just how much the skill level improves as the stakes go up--i think many times its just a case of the same skill levels but their day jobs pay better!!
Still, it seemed to me that i was just playing the smaller stakes a bit incorrectly. If you play very tight pre-flop when everyone is seeing the flop, you are probably not playing your suited connectors, Ax suited, etc. With the fishy games, you want to hit monster hands and then get paid off when people chase when drawing dead. The AK AQ, QQ type hands do better with fewer callers. Sometimes, Sklansky points out that the players actually get correct odds to call your high cards when everyone calls a raise preflop. Now the pot odds make calling correct.
So if you get a lot more players in, then you want to play more straight, flush, and other hands geared toward becoming monsters.
I suck at poker but am finding the lower limits to be more and more beatable with this strategy tweak. As you move up, potentially playing tighter, aggro, bluffing comes into play.

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Old 12-05-2005, 11:33 PM
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I am surprised, that you have jumped yet another level, maybe you are a natural ?? :-)
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: why do i win more at 15/30 and 30/60 than 5/10?

"well i don't think i could beat like phil ivey or gus hansen but it would probably be easier to beat them than beat all 9 people that see the flop at 2/4. that's why 15/30 is better because only 3 or 4 people see the flop and then you can bluff them "

its not so much that they are harder to beat, but u are not playing properly. TO say that pple chasing without the correct odds is detrimental to your play is just dumb. Maybe you should reconsider the value of your hands in loose multiway pots b4 making obviously unknowledgable claims
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Old 12-05-2005, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: why do i win more at 15/30 and 30/60 than 5/10?

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Your sample size at the lower limits is too large. Play fewer hands at those limits and post your numbers then.

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This is correct.
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: why do i win more at 15/30 and 30/60 than 5/10?

Wow. Maybe I should have just skipped the 10/20 like you and I would be rich now. I think I will put myself on the waiting list for the 100/200 game right now.
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Old 12-05-2005, 12:49 PM
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Default Re: why do i win more at 15/30 and 30/60 than 5/10?

I mean, are you serious? People respect your raises more.

I took like infinity bad beats at $25 PLO8 so i moved up to UB 50/100 nl. After my wife left me I won a bagillion dollars. The key to my victory was a 3rd table and my well respected raises.

Can someone transfer me $1 on stars?
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