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Old 05-12-2005, 12:27 AM
btspider btspider is offline
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Default JTo on the button 6max

I think this one has several interesting streets.

MP is about 70/14 PF. I haven't had great folding equity postflop against him thus far. He hasn't been too tricky postflop, tho the sample has been small this session. The other player involved is typical too loose too passive.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

anyone fold?

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, MP calls.

wait until turn situation? does my opponent bet most turn cards?

Turn: (5 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, MP calls.

scare card..

River: (7 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Do I call a bet?
Do I bet if checked to? .. response to a check-raise?
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Old 05-12-2005, 12:30 AM
aK13 aK13 is offline
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Default Re: JTo on the button 6max

Check behind if he checks. I don't know what I'd do if bet into...I'm tempted to say call, but I don't think we're good 1 in 8 times here...
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Old 05-12-2005, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: JTo on the button 6max

hey spider,

my $.02, i play the flop &amp; turn exactly the same. personally, i like the wait-for-the-turn play for 2pair+ on safe turn cards.

if a free showdown is offered, i'd probably take it.

worse hands won't necessarily call (2x, Tx)
some better hands will call (QT, KT)
6x would try for a trap.
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Old 05-12-2005, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: JTo on the button 6max

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worse hands won't necessarily call (2x, Tx)
some better hands will call (QT, KT)


[/ QUOTE ]

Board paired.

Krishan
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Old 05-12-2005, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: JTo on the button 6max

o rite...spider splits tens up w/ A kicker vs KT or QT etc...

so, even more then, i check behind if checked to. an A will either bet or check/raise so if he tries a check-raise better to just get the free showdown. same for 6x...
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Old 05-12-2005, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: JTo on the button 6max

Easy river bet, I dunno what to do with a CR that's a read-based thing. If he bets I would call.

Why are you playing 1/2 you 5/10 monster?

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Old 05-12-2005, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: JTo on the button 6max

[ QUOTE ]
I think this one has several interesting streets.

MP is about 70/14 PF. I haven't had great folding equity postflop against him thus far. He hasn't been too tricky postflop, tho the sample has been small this session. The other player involved is typical too loose too passive.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

anyone fold?

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, MP calls.

wait until turn situation? does my opponent bet most turn cards?

Turn: (5 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, MP calls.

scare card..

River: (7 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Do I call a bet?
Do I bet if checked to? .. response to a check-raise?

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FYP [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:07 AM
btspider btspider is offline
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Default Re: JTo on the button 6max

there's a bonus to clear you bonus whoring pansies scared about losing your bonus whore accounts.

almost finished tho, then back to the 5/10 swampland, but i see the light ahead.
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: JTo on the button 6max

Preflop: I limp.

Flop: Raise. Your not getting bet into often enough, and your hand is not nearly strong enough to slowplay 3 handed. Plus raising helps to define your hand on the cheaper street.

Turn: Standard.

River: Bet this. Easy fold to a raise.

Edit: I call a river bet too.
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Old 05-12-2005, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: JTo on the button 6max

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Flop: Raise. Your not getting bet into often enough, and your hand is not nearly strong enough to slowplay 3 handed. Plus raising helps to define your hand on the cheaper street.

[/ QUOTE ]

a) Calling on the flop with the intention of raising on the turn is *not* a slowplay. It is actually a hand protection line.

b) Defining your hand is a terrible reason to raise. Why would you *want* to define your hand? I can see raising for the reasons of value or protection (or even, more rarely, information) but not to define your hand? I'm curious whether you meant something else.
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