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Old 12-21-2005, 07:22 PM
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Default Kings

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (14 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero ?
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: Kings

Cold call and reevaluate.
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:33 PM
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Default Rest of Flop and Turn

So....I cold call and reevalute... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Still hope to hear some thoughts on 3 betting though.

MP3 is 30/8/2.6 over 146 if anyone cares to know.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (14 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (13 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero ?
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:38 PM
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Yeah okay now you raise and hope no one has an 8.

Jesus Party 2/4 looks like the way .5/1 USED to be! Are most games like this, or were you practicing good table selection?
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: Rest of Flop and Turn

On the turn, you have three outs to the nuts getting 14:1 in a 13 BB pot, so easy call, right? No need to raise or semi-bluff/raise, I think.
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:43 PM
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He is not drawing to the nuts, but he practically is (you can count those 3 outs). I perfer a raise to a call -- it is not out of the realm of possibility he is still leading that that the flop raiser has a hand like AJ.
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:51 PM
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I think you call the flop with the intention of raising the turn.

I think you have to consider the 7 as a fairly safe turn card and I'd consider it a pretty large mistake not raising this turn.

EDIT: I'd consider it a GIGANTIC mistake not to raise this turn.

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Old 12-21-2005, 07:55 PM
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I think you call the flop with the intention of raising the turn.

I think you have to consider the 7 as a fairly safe turn card and I'd consider it a pretty large mistake not raising this turn.

EDIT: I'd consider it a GIGANTIC mistake not to raise this turn.



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I'm apprehensive as I don't see the 7 as being as safe you do. Not NEARLY so.
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: Rest of Flop and Turn

[ QUOTE ]
I think you have to consider the 7 as a fairly safe turn card and I'd consider it a pretty large mistake not raising this turn.

EDIT: I'd consider it a GIGANTIC mistake not to raise this turn.

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Why is this such a safe card? People would stick around with an 8 here all the time, especially in a field this big and a pot this big. There are also all types of two pair hands that could be out against you.
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: Rest of Flop and Turn

That was one of the turn cards we didn't want to see. Just call.
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