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#4
12-27-2005, 12:50 PM
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Re: Curtains Hand #1
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Screw the results...I wanna hear Curtains train of thought far more than I care about the results. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. Though I am curious here...exactly what hand are we putting villian on? I think I might take the same line Curtains did here - but with the painted turn/river...its hard to imagine a hand we bet... I mighta block bet the river...or the turn for that matter...If I went into check/calling mode - I can definitley see myself wimping out the hand. I appreciate the couragousness of the hand though... 
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#5
12-27-2005, 12:43 PM
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Re: Curtains Hand #1
The preflop raise has everything to do with curtains stack, methinks. I'm betting he makes this steal raise FAR more frequently with 2K in chips vs. 1K. If the BB is a 2+2'er it certainly figures in as well, as I think it's a safe assumption they would at the very least be aware of each other and maybe even have a decent history.
Because the two factors I just mentioned are obvious to the BB as well, I believe his hand range is looser than normal, maybe something as loose as 55+, A8+, TJs+, JQo+. Anyway the flop play of curtains totally baffles me. I'd really like to know what his action would have been if the BB would have potted the flop. Maybe the bet of 60 confused him and he decided to "call for information" knowing the BB would likely check behind on the turn if he was bluffing. Once the BB exposed himself with the turn check, curtains vowed to call any reasonable river bet. He hated the river but called as planned, and lost. That is the only logical scenario I can construct for this line. I'm eager to hear the truth on this one.
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#7
12-27-2005, 01:14 PM
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Re: Curtains Hand #1
I'm curious why he would make a that move so early in a tournament. He is not picking up very many chips and risking a rather drastic table image if found out.
I can answer from my standpoint that the few times I do such a thing is when I'm trying to feel out the play of the guy to my left. If I learn early (and cheaply) that he is weak, then this information can be invaluable later in the tournament when a soft BB can turn into a chip ATM.
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#9
12-27-2005, 01:22 PM
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Re: Curtains Hand #1
Folded to him in the small blind and his opponent is tight. No need to look at cards. Raise.
River call is a bit loose, Sheriff, but an invitation was issued for a steal there and Curtains doesn't like to be taken advantage of.
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#10
12-27-2005, 01:59 PM
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Re: Curtains Hand #1
Ok obviously this hand wasnt well played. Sometimes against regulars I call on the river becuase of a combination of maybe there is a chance I'm ahead, and curiosity, to simply see what they have. When you play with a guy a ton, it can be worth it, and of course there is a chance he's bluffing, although I feel that taken on its own the river call is -EV. Of course the above is a huge cop-out Ill try to articulate better below. Please realize that every now and then I just go a bit insane and do weird things. But ok, taken in a vacuum this hand looks as though it was played by an idiot, so I should try to formulate some defense, or either condemn my play as bad.
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