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Old 08-13-2005, 03:23 AM
David Sklansky David Sklansky is offline
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Default One of the Basic Questions of Philosophy?

If it isn't it, I think it probably should be. The question is: Is Cooker right when he posted on another thread

"Many people live under the mistaken belief that being correct is advantagous. This may or may not be the case. I think it is very possible, that certain incorrect views might have an advantage."

My answer is an in between one which I will get into later. What's yours?

PS We are not talking here about obvious occasional short term benefits of incorrect thoughts.
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Old 08-13-2005, 05:33 AM
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Default Re: One of the Basic Questions of Philosophy?

Anyone who is or has ever been married knows that the answer is: it is not an advantage to be correct.
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Old 08-13-2005, 05:49 AM
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Default Re: One of the Basic Questions of Philosophy?

I presume you mean views which are unknowingly incorrect rather than maintaining the truth of a known falsehood for some psychological or manipulative reason. The only advantage that could accrue from an incorrect view is one which would lead one to pursue an action that had a beneficial result but which action would not have been taken were the truth known. The only such advantage I personally have experienced is misreading an opponent's hand on an early street and calling an allin bet with insufficient pot odds but sucking out on the river.
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Old 08-13-2005, 07:33 AM
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Default Re: One of the Basic Questions of Philosophy?

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"Many people live under the mistaken belief that being correct is advantagous. This may or may not be the case. I think it is very possible, that certain incorrect views might have an advantage."

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Depends entirely on your goals and your means. In the long run, being correct (and thus, by definition, more in touch with objective reality), is a good thing in general.

But there are plenty of examples where being incorrect has been very advantageous.
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Old 08-13-2005, 07:41 AM
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Default Re: One of the Basic Questions of Philosophy?

It seems obvious that some people have better lives for being religous and this is independant of the truth of their beliefs.

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Old 08-13-2005, 08:06 AM
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It seems obvious that some people have better lives for being religous and this is independant of the truth of their beliefs.

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And the reverse: It seems obvious that some people have better lives for NOT being religous and this is independant of the truth of their beliefs.

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Old 08-13-2005, 08:06 AM
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Default Re: One of the Basic Questions of Philosophy?

I think in terms of relationships and personal politics, some self deception helps society function more smoothly.

Case in point, some studies suggest that 1/5 of children of a married couple are not the husbands.
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Old 08-13-2005, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: One of the Basic Questions of Philosophy?

Define "correct", then we may be able to have a meaningful discussion.

Edit: After re-reading the OP, we will need to agree on definitions for both "correct" and "advantagous".

If I define "advantagous" as "that which is conductive to my goals" and "correct" as "the most accurate depiction of reality" then it follows that the more correct I am, the better I can achieve my goals.

As I said, without agreeing upon a defition of advantage, we can't have much of a debate. Certain incorrect views may very well give a person an advantage in being happy, reproducing, any number of things that humans tend to value.
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Old 08-13-2005, 11:10 AM
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Default Re: One of the Basic Questions of Philosophy?

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"Many people live under the mistaken belief that being correct is advantagous. This may or may not be the case. I think it is very possible, that certain incorrect views might have an advantage."



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I can't remember which book right now but Nietzsche said something along the lines of...

We men of reason and our will to truth, but why not rather untruth?
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Old 08-13-2005, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: One of the Basic Questions of Philosophy?

Is there value in avoiding contradictions? Yes. Does that mean nothing else can be of value? No.

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