Hellmuths FW hand vs Corkins

[EricW]

LOL come to think of it, it DID look like his pants were on fire.

[-Skeme-]

No, Hellmuth had position. Corkins check-raised the flop, Hellmuth called. Turn is 7, it goes check-check. River is 7, Hoyt bets. Hellmuth says call, asks if he has the Ace, and Hoyt doesn't move as he thinks Phil hasn't yet acted. Phil tells him, "I said call, Hoyt."

Hoyt turns over the J7o and Hellmuth bitches. He didn't bet river.

[Toro]

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No, Hellmuth had position. Corkins check-raised the flop, Hellmuth called. Turn is 7, it goes check-check. River is 7, Hoyt bets. Hellmuth says call, asks if he has the Ace, and Hoyt doesn't move as he thinks Phil hasn't yet acted. Phil tells him, "I said call, Hoyt."

Hoyt turns over the J7o and Hellmuth bitches. He didn't bet river.

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You got this mixed up with another hand they had together. The way I described it was correct.

[The Bear]

Phil bet the river as a block. Since you played with Hoyt that week, you know that he was prone to make massive overbets, both with and without a hand. I'm not sure if you watched the entire final table, but Hoyt was completely abusing Phil with these big bets. As usual, Phil was whining and waiting for the nuts to look Hoyt up. In this spot, Phil was obviously uncomfortable checking a calling a very large bet with top pair, so he opted to block instead. From what I've read and seen of Phil's play, it seems that he likes to make plays like this in order to avoid making tough decisions that could potentially cost him all of his chips.

I don't think this was necessarily the correct play and I agree with you that it's very unlikely that Hoyt calls with a worse hand given the action, but I'm pretty sure of the reasoning behind his bet.

[-Skeme-]

Ah, alright, I think you may be right. Sorry about that.