Is this why I still play 10/20?

Nietzsche · #1 12-19-2005, 01:01 PM

UTG is 40/15/2. I've only been at the table for an orbit and we are unknown to each other.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.75 BB

I raised thinking I could fold to a 3-bet then started second guessing myself. Is this a lower heart/complete bluff/overplayed set often enough?

Is it better to just call to avoid this situation? Or is it all about discipline?

geormiet · #2 12-19-2005, 01:10 PM

It's so ugly, but I don't really see another way to play it (unless you fold to the river 3 bet, and I don't against an unknown getting 13:1 or what have you)

Kharnage · #3 12-19-2005, 02:00 PM

Raise/folding with second-nuts against an unknown getting 13:1 really isnt a good idea. I would just call this on every street, but I suck.

Victor · #4 12-19-2005, 02:05 PM

i think you played it fine.

Lmn55d · #5 12-19-2005, 02:12 PM

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i think you played it fine.

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wackjob · #6 12-19-2005, 02:21 PM

I probably wouldn't raise the river. I think calling is fine here.

wheelz · #7 12-19-2005, 02:25 PM

weak wackjob, weak.

Victor · #8 12-19-2005, 02:35 PM

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weak wackjob, weak.

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calling has its merits since villain capped pf he is marked with big cards and it sucks to get 3bet bc we absolutely must pay this guy off.

still, our 2nuts has too much value against this guy bc he is paying off nearly any pair here.

wackjob · #9 12-19-2005, 02:37 PM

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weak wackjob, weak.

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the repeated asskickings at 3/6 full lately have made me into a real weenie.

#10 12-19-2005, 03:18 PM

I'd just call the river against an unknown. A lot of unknowns are nancies on these boards and will check-call without the flush. The only flush he should have is the nut flush. I won't be folding. That makes it a call for me.