Can someone explain/confirm this please.

TonyBlair · #1 08-17-2005, 10:23 AM

Just played a NLHE hand where I had JsTs and the board was 9h qh kc. I ended up all in against Kh 3h.
I checked the odds and was surprised that I was only a very slight favourite.
I was more surprised when I changed the opponent's K to an Ah. This tipped the balance in his favour.

I'm guessing this info is correct but I just wanted to check. I'm guessing it's the backdoor straight that makes the A better than the K in this instance but I'm surprised that this makes the flush draw a favourite against the made straight.

bobman0330 · #2 08-17-2005, 10:28 AM

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1153626
pokenum -h js ts - ah 3h -- kc qh 9h
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Kc Qh 9h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js Ts 626 63.23 364 36.77 0 0.00 0.632
Ah 3h 364 36.77 626 63.23 0 0.00 0.368

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1153627
pokenum -h js ts - kh 3h -- kc qh 9h
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Kc Qh 9h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js Ts 598 60.40 388 39.19 4 0.40 0.606
Kh 3h 388 39.19 598 60.40 4 0.40 0.394

The backdoor full-house is more valuable than the backdoor straight.

OrangeKing · #3 08-17-2005, 11:31 AM

And in either case, you're a fairly strong favorite - where did you check your odds?

#4 08-17-2005, 01:34 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Just played a NLHE hand where I had JsTs and the board was 9h qh kc. I ended up all in against Kh 3h.
I checked the odds and was surprised that I was only a very slight favourite.

[/ QUOTE ]You're about a 3:2 favorite. Either our ideas of "very slight" are different or the odds you checked were incorrect.

TonyBlair · #5 08-18-2005, 06:36 AM

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And in either case, you're a fairly strong favorite - where did you check your odds?

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Twodimes.net

I've just rechecked this hand and I'm getting a different answer today - much more in line with what I was originally expecting.
I guess I must have entered something incorrectly. If so, it was definitely with the board cards because I entered the hole cards a few different times. Thing is, I can't think of a similar board that give answers close to 50-50. I wasn't high or drunk.

Thanks for your replies anyway.