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Old 04-12-2005, 05:28 PM
creedofhubris creedofhubris is offline
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Default oops, he\'s almost all-in and i have five high.

Very good $5/$5 live game in New Orleans. Aggressively bad player (he's raising most of the time) makes it $20. Fish who I haven't seen in any big pots calls. Tight/weak player calls.

I look down to spot 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in my SB. I've got a very tight table image and haven't been getting paid off, so I make it $120 all day, intending to scoop the pot and flash my monster cards. Aggro player folds, fish fumbles with chips and calls, tight/weaky folds.

Fish has $80 left, pot is $290.

Whoops.

Flop:

K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

My move?
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Old 04-12-2005, 05:38 PM
Subfallen Subfallen is offline
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Default Re: oops, he\'s almost all-in and i have five high.

You could always open-fold. However, you do have a backdoor draw to the nuts, so my vote goes for putting him in.
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Old 04-12-2005, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: oops, he\'s almost all-in and i have five high.

It's not uncommon for uberfish to call off half their stack preflop and then fold when they don't get a good flop, so I'd go ahead and put him all-in. There's a decent chance he doesn't have a pair yet, and even if he doesn't fold you've got some outs. The pot is big enough to make it worthwhile, I think.
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Old 04-12-2005, 05:55 PM
MVicuna MVicuna is offline
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Default Re: oops, he\'s almost all-in and i have five high.

Hi,

I thought you said you were playign the hand for image value to begin with?

Bet his last $80 and flip 'em up. Why is this even a question?

Later,
MarkV.
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Old 04-12-2005, 06:02 PM
BobboFitos BobboFitos is offline
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Default Re: oops, he\'s almost all-in and i have five high.

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I even if he doesn't fold you've got some outs.

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Old 04-12-2005, 07:26 PM
creedofhubris creedofhubris is offline
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Default Re: oops, he\'s almost all-in and i have five high.

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Hi,

I thought you said you were playign the hand for image value to begin with?

Bet his last $80 and flip 'em up. Why is this even a question?

Later,
MarkV.

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I get the same advertising value by check/folding them face up.
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Old 04-12-2005, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: oops, he\'s almost all-in and i have five high.

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I even if he doesn't fold you've got some outs.

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and even if he doesn't fold you've got some outs (to make a pair and beat his ace-high/whatever)

Better?
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Old 04-12-2005, 08:48 PM
MVicuna MVicuna is offline
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Because the fish is going to bet his last $80 when you check and is going to call 100% of the time if you bet?

Check/folding face up and everyone who might be paying attention knows your making an image play and ignores it. Putting the shortstack all in with five high and you might actually make people stop and think.

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Old 04-12-2005, 09:53 PM
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Default Re: oops, he\'s almost all-in and i have five high.

creed,

when did this hand take place?....
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Old 04-12-2005, 10:14 PM
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Default Re: oops, he\'s almost all-in and i have five high.

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You could always open-fold. However, you do have a backdoor draw to the nuts, so my vote goes for putting him in.

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nh
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