The Bubble

durron597 · #1 08-08-2005, 10:20 AM

I have been on a bad run of late. It's interesting, I'm actually getting better at having a bigger stack earlier but for some reason the part of my game I thought I was good at (the bubble) is now the part giving me the most trouble. So here is an HH of a bubble where there is absolutely no excuse for me to have finished OOTM, and yet I did. Comments on any hand is appreciated, but please give particular attention to hands 8, 18, and 20.

Hand 1:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

BB (Jxxxx) (t2220)
UTG (Cxxxx) (t3500)
Button (Axxxx) (t3540)
Hero (t4240)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to t4240, 1 fold.

Final Pot: t4315

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Hero wins t4315. 

Hand 2:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

SB (Jxxxx) (t1795)
BB (Cxxxx) (t3475)
UTG (Axxxx) (t3515)
Hero (t4715)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to t4715, 2 folds.

Final Pot: t4790

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Hero wins t4790. 

Hand 3:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

Button (Jxxxx) (t1570)
SB (Cxxxx) (t3050)
BB (Axxxx) (t3490)
Hero (t5390)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t5390, 3 folds.

Final Pot: t5465

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Hero wins t5465. 

Hand 4:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

UTG (Jxxxx) (t1545)
Button (Cxxxx) (t2825)
SB (Axxxx) (t3065)
Hero (t6065)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, SB (Axxxx) raises to t1400, 1 fold.

Final Pot: t1475

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Axxxx wins t1475. 

Hand 5:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

BB (Jxxxx) (t1520)
UTG (Cxxxx) (t2800)
Button (Axxxx) (t3540)
Hero (t5640)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to t5640, 1 fold.

Final Pot: t5715

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Hero wins t5715. 

Hand 6:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

SB (Jxxxx) (t1095)
BB (Cxxxx) (t2775)
UTG (Axxxx) (t3515)
Hero (t6115)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, SB (Jxxxx) raises to t1070, BB (Cxxxx) calls t670.

Flop: (t1815) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t1815) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t1815) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t1815

Results in white below: 
Jxxxx has 6h 6d (two pair, sixes and fives).
Cxxxx has 3h 2d (one pair, fives).
Outcome: Jxxxx wins t1815. 

Hand 7:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

Button (Jxxxx) (t2240)
SB (Cxxxx) (t1680)
BB (Axxxx) (t3490)
Hero (t6090)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t6090, 3 folds.

Final Pot: t6165

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Hero wins t6165. 

Hand 8:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

UTG (Jxxxx) (t2215)
Button (Cxxxx) (t1455)
SB (Axxxx) (t3065)
Hero (t6765)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, SB (Axxxx) raises to t800, Hero calls t400.

Flop: (t1275) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Axxxx bets t1200, Hero raises to t5940, Axxxx calls t1040 (All-In).

Turn: (t9455) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t9455) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t9455

Results in white below: 
Axxxx has Qc Js (one pair, jacks).
Hero has 5d Td (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Axxxx wins t5755. Hero wins t3700. 

Hand 9:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

BB (Jxxxx) (t2190)
UTG (Cxxxx) (t1430)
Button (Axxxx) (t6180)
Hero (t3700)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds.

Final Pot: t100

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Jxxxx wins t100. 

Hand 10:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

SB (Jxxxx) (t2465)
BB (Cxxxx) (t1405)
UTG (Axxxx) (t6155)
Hero (t3475)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG (Axxxx) calls t400, Hero raises to t3475, 2 folds, UTG (Axxxx) folds.

Final Pot: t3950

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Hero wins t3950. 

Hand 11:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

Button (Jxxxx) (t2240)
SB (Cxxxx) (t980)
BB (Axxxx) (t5730)
Hero (t4550)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, SB (Cxxxx) raises to t955, BB (Axxxx) calls t555.

Flop: (t1585) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t1585) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t1585) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t1585

Results in white below: 
Axxxx has Qd 9d (two pair, queens and sixes).
Cxxxx has Ah Qs (two pair, queens and sixes).
Outcome: Cxxxx wins t1585. 

Hand 12:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

UTG (Jxxxx) (t2215)
Button (Cxxxx) (t2010)
SB (Axxxx) (t4750)
Hero (t4525)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds.

Final Pot: t200

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Hero wins t200. 

Hand 13:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

BB (Jxxxx) (t2165)
UTG (Cxxxx) (t1960)
Button (Axxxx) (t4400)
Hero (t4975)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to t4975, 1 fold.

Final Pot: t5125

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Hero wins t5125. 

Hand 14:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

SB (Jxxxx) (t1515)
BB (Cxxxx) (t1910)
UTG (Axxxx) (t4350)
Hero (t5725)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG (Axxxx) raises to t1850, 3 folds.

Final Pot: t2000

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Axxxx wins t2000. 

Hand 15:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

Button (Jxxxx) (t1165)
SB (Cxxxx) (t1260)
BB (Axxxx) (t5400)
Hero (t5675)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds.

Final Pot: t200

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Axxxx wins t200. 

Hand 16:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

UTG (Jxxxx) (t1115)
Button (Cxxxx) (t910)
SB (Axxxx) (t5850)
Hero (t5625)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Button (Cxxxx) raises to t860, 1 fold, Hero calls t260.

Flop: (t1270) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t1270) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t1270) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t1270

Results in white below: 
Cxxxx has 6d As (one pair, kings).
Hero has 8h Tc (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Cxxxx wins t1270. 

Hand 17:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

BB (Jxxxx) (t1065)
UTG (Cxxxx) (t2220)
Button (Axxxx) (t5500)
Hero (t4715)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG (Cxxxx) raises to t1250, 3 folds.

Final Pot: t1400

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Cxxxx wins t1400. 

Hand 18:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

SB (Jxxxx) (t415)
BB (Cxxxx) (t3270)
UTG (Axxxx) (t5450)
Hero (t4365)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero calls t600, SB (Jxxxx) completes t65 (All-In), BB (Cxxxx) checks.

Flop: (t1415) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
Cxxxx checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t1415) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
Cxxxx checks, Hero checks.

River: (t1415) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
Cxxxx checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: t1415

Results in white below: 
Jxxxx has 9d Ah (four of a kind, aces).
Cxxxx has Ks Jh (three of a kind, aces).
Hero has 9h 8d (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: Cxxxx wins t1020. Jxxxx wins t395. 

Hand 19:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

Button (Jxxxx) (t1295)
SB (Cxxxx) (t3090)
BB (Axxxx) (t5400)
Hero (t3715)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds.

Final Pot: t200

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Axxxx wins t200. 

Hand 20:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

UTG (Jxxxx) (t1245)
Button (Cxxxx) (t2740)
SB (Axxxx) (t5850)
Hero (t3665)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, SB (Axxxx) raises to t1250, 1 fold.

Final Pot: t1400

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Axxxx wins t1400. 

Hand 20:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

BB (Jxxxx) (t1195)
UTG (Cxxxx) (t2690)
Button (Axxxx) (t6600)
Hero (t3015)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to t1200, BB (Jxxxx) calls t545 (All-In).

Flop: (t1895) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t1895) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t1895) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t1895

Results in white below: 
Jxxxx has 6s Ah (high card, ace).
Hero has 5h 7c (high card, king).
Outcome: Jxxxx wins t1290. Hero wins t605. 

Hand 21:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

SB (Jxxxx) (t2490)
BB (Cxxxx) (t2640)
UTG (Axxxx) (t6550)
Hero (t1820)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds.

Final Pot: t200

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Cxxxx wins t200. 

Hand 22:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

Button (Jxxxx) (t2140)
SB (Cxxxx) (t3090)
BB (Axxxx) (t6500)
Hero (t1770)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t1720, 2 folds, BB (Axxxx) calls t1120.

Flop: (t2990) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t2990) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t2990) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t2990

Results in white below: 
Axxxx has Ac Qd (high card, ace).
Hero has 9c As (high card, ace).
Outcome: Axxxx wins t2990.

tigerite · #2 08-08-2005, 10:46 AM

Hand 8 was just silly. The call preflop is just about ok, although I don't particularly love it, but then to re-raise him all in when he's put half his remaining stack on the flop, he ain't folding, and you will see a jack virtually every time here.

tigerite · #3 08-08-2005, 10:50 AM

18 is ok but I think I would fold. Let the BB take 'em out. (Or lose chips, whichever). Hand 20, assuming you mean the 2nd one, is fine, and unexploitable. Hand 21, you should push.

If you're feeling frisky, or think UTG is a decent player, you could push hand 14 over the top of him too

45suited · #4 08-08-2005, 10:53 AM

I agree that hand 8 was silly.

I was also surprised that you did not push hand 21. Why not?

durron597 · #5 08-08-2005, 10:59 AM

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Hand 8 was just silly. The call preflop is just about ok, although I don't particularly love it, but then to re-raise him all in when he's put half his remaining stack on the flop, he ain't folding, and you will see a jack virtually every time here.

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I thought he might fold given UTG's short stack, and I thought it was also not unlikely he had a hand like 99 or 88. But I was probably wrong.

durron597 · #6 08-08-2005, 11:00 AM

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I was also surprised that you did not push hand 21. Why not?

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Because I pushed so many hands so far and now people actually had me covered so I might get a call.

tigerite · #7 08-08-2005, 11:04 AM

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Hand 8 was just silly. The call preflop is just about ok, although I don't particularly love it, but then to re-raise him all in when he's put half his remaining stack on the flop, he ain't folding, and you will see a jack virtually every time here.

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I thought he might fold given UTG's short stack, and I thought it was also not unlikely he had a hand like 99 or 88. But I was probably wrong.

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I think the fact of UTG being short stack (and he's not all that short, at least not in terms of chips, most people don't think in terms of BBs at this stage, even though they should) means he is less likely to cont. bet this flop with an underpair, or even AKo etc. He's going to be very careful to protect his chips against you, the only one on the table who can bust him. I would be very surprised if he has a jack less than 90% of the time here.

As for the Q2s hand. Well, let 'em look you up then, but I really can't see it because a call is going to absolutely cripple them. I'd rather do it here than against the big stack in the BB next hand. (Although you picked up a relative monster and just got unlucky)

45suited · #8 08-08-2005, 11:04 AM

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I was also surprised that you did not push hand 21. Why not?

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Because I pushed so many hands so far and now people actually had me covered so I might get a call.

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I still think with the blind sizes and your stack, that was a push. I really don't think that you had a choice but to push that, especially since you still had some FE.

tigerite · #9 08-08-2005, 11:07 AM

I totally agree, now you're on 3BB's and the big stack is next up in the blind, I'm pretty sure it's +EV to push even if they will call with quite a large range..

durron597 · #10 08-08-2005, 11:10 AM

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I totally agree, now you're on 3BB's and the big stack is next up in the blind, I'm pretty sure it's +EV to push even if they will call with quite a large range..

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Also the other issue was that I was a little on tilt having 1850 chips and 3 BB left after being up to 7k at one point.