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Old 11-27-2005, 02:08 PM
Carl_William Carl_William is offline
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Just a suggestion:

I feel that the Forum Title "The Stock Market" could be changed to:
"Finance and the Stock Market" or better yet
"Finance and the Markets"

I feel this would be a little more appropriate for this forum.

There are many reasons why I feel this way. One reason being: One facet of 2+2 Forums is that most of the contributors are above average intelligence. For instance most of the poker players (who post on 2+2) admit to winning one big bet (or so) an hour. Bottom line: “Lots of good poker players post on 2+2.” This means that the average player who loses 2 big bets an hour (“or so” after the rake); does not generally post on 2+2. But when the topic switches to the markets, some of this above average intelligence probably goes down the drain – no insult or putting down intended. Many good poker players don’t have a profound understanding (whatever that is) of the markets. Over the years, we have all heard and I believe it to be true that poker is a higher level game than say “bridge and on a level with chess – although the poker and chess are “somewhat” animals of a different nature. But if the markets are considered a game; then they are a somewhat different than card games and bridge. On stock market Internet post site or blogs, it seems that many times the posters just plug or tout certain stocks – wise investors know that following the advice of these posts is a losing game in the long run for most people.

I feel that a market forum “an honest forum;” should help the average investor or saver to optimize his/her long range goals.
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Old 11-27-2005, 02:32 PM
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probably around 80%-90% of 2+2ers don't make money after rake or are marginal winners at best.
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Old 11-27-2005, 05:45 PM
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probably around 80%-90% of 2+2ers don't make money after rake or are marginal winners at best.

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This is wrong... a very high percentage of 2+2ers are winning players... in fact the number of long term active posters that are winners, likely approaches 100%.

There have been many threads on this topic, across the forums.
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Old 11-27-2005, 08:06 PM
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i haven't been on a poker forum in several months, but my numbers definitely agree with my observations at the time i was visiting those forums. i can't imagine the number of winning players would have hmad that significant of an increase in such a short period.

FWIW, sklansky estimated in poker gaming in life that of those poker players who diligently study, probably no more than 10% are winning more than a marginal amount.
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Old 11-27-2005, 10:52 PM
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2+2 does not consist of a representative sample of the poker player pool.
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Old 11-27-2005, 11:24 PM
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so? how is that relevant?
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Old 11-28-2005, 12:15 AM
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Zygote,

Im not sure why you have decided to hijack this thread, but I humbly suggest that you take a look around the strategy forums here on 2+2. You might learn something!

I will conclude with Ed's words from this month's 2+2 mag... "Our members are succeeding to a far greater extent and in far greater numbers than I imagined possible when we were writing SSH. David wrote, `$50,000 a year should be no big deal.' Now it seems like maybe that number should be more like $200,000."
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Old 11-28-2005, 12:36 AM
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Zygote,

Im not sure why you have decided to hijack this thread, but I humbly suggest that you take a look around the strategy forums here on 2+2. You might learn something!

I will conclude with Ed's words from this month's 2+2 mag... "Our members are succeeding to a far greater extent and in far greater numbers than I imagined possible when we were writing SSH. David wrote, `$50,000 a year should be no big deal.' Now it seems like maybe that number should be more like $200,000."

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i'm definitely not hijacking the thread. I am debating an assumption behind one of the OP's points.

Also, unlike the material of david's that i cited, yours does nothing to further prove your point. For one, we don't know ed's orignial expectations. Secondly, the amount an individual can make has a little to do with the percent of winners.

Lastly, i appreciate the suggestion, but I doubt i will go back to the strategy forums unless they have changed since i've left. unfortunately, discussing this would be hijacking the thread, so i'll stay from this topic for now.
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Old 11-28-2005, 12:42 AM
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how about INVESTING
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Old 11-28-2005, 08:19 AM
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If the stock market only offered deposit bonuses I would be all set [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

All kidding aside, I do ok in the stock market (around 15%/year over the last 4 years). Maybe luck, who knows.
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