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Re: Stars VIP Program
So your ballpark estimate turns Stars VIP into 20% rakeback at supernova status. Now please explain to me how this is better than 25% rakeback. For all the hype that Lee Jones gave us, how is 20% rakeback NOT pathetic.
And no, the freerolls are BS. The only value would be in the supernova freerolls and they do not start until APRIL. Stars made sure they wouldn't give away any free money to someone who bothered to make supernova early. People are trying really hard to justify playing at stars for some reason, maybe because the allure of a 50 inch plasma TV or a new car. Guess what? You can buy a plasma TV with cash! |
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Re: Stars VIP Program
Well while 20% < 25%, I wouldn't exactly call it pathetic. I have a good party affiliate and really am not considering a move to stars. Especially considering that the 15/30 and higher game selection isn't very great there. I just see this as a good start. And yea, I agree that freerolls are lame.
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Re: Stars VIP Program
The rake is also a little lower at Stars -- so that could make up for the 5% difference in rakeback. Again, just getting cold hard cash back from Party is a lot more convenient though, and you have to play a ton of hands at Stars each year before you start getting your 20% rakeback for the rest of the year.
Not to mention the game selection is better at Party. |
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Re: Stars VIP Program
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So your ballpark estimate turns Stars VIP into 20% rakeback at supernova status. Now please explain to me how this is better than 25% rakeback. For all the hype that Lee Jones gave us, how is 20% rakeback NOT pathetic. And no, the freerolls are BS. The only value would be in the supernova freerolls and they do not start until APRIL. Stars made sure they wouldn't give away any free money to someone who bothered to make supernova early. People are trying really hard to justify playing at stars for some reason, maybe because the allure of a 50 inch plasma TV or a new car. Guess what? You can buy a plasma TV with cash! [/ QUOTE ] he actually convinced me a little bit i hate party, absolutely hate them...with a difference of only 5% added to a better site, 1000x better support, lesser rake etc...i think this is a compelling case for everybody to switch to stars if we could only convince the fish... |
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Re: Stars VIP Program
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if we could only convince the fish... [/ QUOTE ] Actually, I think Stars will be able to convince more fish to play there with this program if it gets publicized with the general poker playing public and outside of just your hardcore players that read this forum. I know they sure have set the hook on me. I'm like a big marlin flopping around and am ready to be pulled into the boat. |
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Re: Stars VIP Program
you know, I was thinking about it tonight, and I just may switch to stars later on in the year, when rakeback means a little less and my bankroll is nice and big. EPT entries would really be nice, and if I cash in one then that's some pretty good rakeback.
I just emailed the party VIP club and was reminded about how much I HATE HATE HATE partypoker. I hadn't dealt with them in a couple weeks and I was forgetting how much they suck. I asked about January VIP offers and of course they said "to keep the VIP club exciting offers change from month to month. We will not be able to provide you details of future promotions" I HATE YOU PARTY [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] |
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Re: Stars VIP Program
I thought we were "damn fool"s if we play at Stars when unmentionable is available for potty?
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Re: Stars VIP Program
I guess it depends on your financial situation and how much money means to you.
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Re: Stars VIP Program
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So your ballpark estimate turns Stars VIP into 20% rakeback at supernova status. Now please explain to me how this is better than 25% rakeback. For all the hype that Lee Jones gave us, how is 20% rakeback NOT pathetic. [/ QUOTE ] You pay significantly less in rake at 3/6 and 5/10. Compare the rake structures. There's a big difference. Of course at 10/20+ it doesn't make that much difference, so PP+that think no one has is better. |
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Re: Stars VIP Program
"For all the hype that Lee Jones gave us"
I think Lee mentioned it ONCE. He just said that they were working on their VIP club which would include the possibility of spending your FPP's on WSOP and PCA entries (and other stuff). To my knowledge, this was ALL he said about it. So I don't blame Lee for over-hyping it or anything like that. All the hype came from 2+2'ers like Augie and others (me included) possibly with over-active imaginations who kept saying, "I want it NOW. I can't wait" etc etc. This was partly due to the overall growing frustration with the Party VIP incompetence. I agree with both sides. It's not mind-blowingly great, but it's a decent start. And the fact that it's clearly spelled out (and competently) is very attractive compared with the party vagueness and lack of organization. Just think what everyone here would be doing if Party implemented the same kind of program that Stars is using. It's not THAT freaking hard to figure out what the players want and actually give it to them. If Party really wants to keep the high-volume players they're just going to have to try harder...and pay attention to what's going on. Listening to some of the legitimate complaints about the November pay-outs would be a start. Not lying about December offers 'coming REALLY soon' would be a good idea too. I did the marathon 25k points for the cruise thing (don't know ntil Jan 5 if I'm one of the first 30 players) but obviously that promotion wasn't attractive to most people. |
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