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Old 12-31-2005, 04:16 AM
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Default Re: $11: JJ early game, interesting hand

Why such a massive raise PF? It's not like there's much out there worth taking down at that point, so one of three things is going to happen:

1) You win a very small pot pre-flop and basically waste your jacks. Yippee.

2) You get called and the flop comes with an overcard(s) and you are faced with tough flop decisions in a big pot.

3) You get called and your jacks are an overpair to the flop. You likely have the best hand, unless villian flopped a set or slowplayed an overpair.

Scenarios 1 and 2 are more likely to happen than scenario 3, and neither 1 nor 2 are particularly great.

SO, I either limp PF or I raise smaller, keep the pot manageable. I really hate the huge PF raise here.
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Old 12-31-2005, 04:20 AM
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Default Re: $11: JJ early game, interesting hand

I disagree with a small raise here. That doesn't do anything except build the pot, which is not what I want with my JJ. I am trying to isolate with that raise. In that situation, I like either limping and playing the flop cautiously, or betting enough to isolate my hand pre-flop.
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Old 12-31-2005, 04:28 AM
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Default Re: $11: JJ early game, interesting hand

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I disagree with a small raise here. That doesn't do anything except build the pot, which is not what I want with my JJ. I am trying to isolate with that raise. In that situation, I like either limping and playing the flop cautiously, or betting enough to isolate my hand pre-flop.

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I didn't say to make a pot sweetening raise, but you could have easily raised to ~100 and accmomplished the same thing w/o committing yourself so much to the hand. As it is now, the pot is so large and you have little maneuverability due to your stack size.
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