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Old 08-23-2005, 05:51 PM
Student Caine Student Caine is offline
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Default Need help with this TPTK decision on the River

I play way too weak-tight and I think that I am really hurting myself by not gaining bets that I should be on the river. That being the case, how do you play this?

6/12 Live Game with way too many callers preflop on almost every hand.

MP2 just sat down, he has played 5 of his first 8 hands, but has not shown down anything.

Hero is weak-tight and on the Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

PREFLOP
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls

FLOP (12 SB)
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All check to Hero who bets, all fold except MP2 who calls

Turn (7 BB)
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MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls

River (9 BB)
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MP2 checks, Hero ???
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Old 08-23-2005, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: Need help with this TPTK decision on the River

Bet-call.
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Old 08-23-2005, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: Need help with this TPTK decision on the River

Bets.

He could have almost anything and will call a bet with plenty of worse hands.
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Old 08-23-2005, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: Need help with this TPTK decision on the River

Bet/call.
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Old 08-23-2005, 06:54 PM
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Default Re: Need help with this TPTK decision on the River

Check, it seems that you are beaten. by checking you protect from a raise:
--if he made his flush.
--if he has been slowplaying a stronger hand: ie; KK
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Old 08-23-2005, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: Need help with this TPTK decision on the River

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Check, it seems that you are beaten. by checking you protect from a raise:
--if he made his flush.
--if he has been slowplaying a stronger hand: ie; KK

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This is horrible advice. The times you are winning and gain an extra bet by betting here far outweigh the times he made his flush or has better hand.

While I almost never do this live I'm starting to think bet/folding is the best line against most of these players as you will very very rarely see a river bluff check raise from a standard loose passive live player.
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Old 08-23-2005, 07:30 PM
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Check, it seems that you are beaten.

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Because a guy who probably plays upwards of 60% of his hands has checked and called you twice on a relatively benign board?
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Old 08-23-2005, 08:58 PM
Student Caine Student Caine is offline
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Default Re: Need help with this TPTK decision on the River

Do you think that KK doesn't raise pre-flop?

I thought about that, but surely if he doesn't raise, he *has* to re-raise pre-flop?
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:00 PM
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Check, it seems that you are beaten. by checking you protect from a raise:
--if he made his flush.
--if he has been slowplaying a stronger hand: ie; KK

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i like your dress
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:02 PM
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Why does everyone always divert to the worse possible scenario?
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