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Old 12-19-2005, 08:06 PM
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So hows my line here? i know that if i was going to call the flop i shouldnt have folded the turn, but i just wanted to see what he would have done. Is my fold correct? no reads.

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SB ($29.46)
BB ($32.85)
UTG ($44.08)
MP ($48.10)
CO ($103.85)
Hero ($52.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.55</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $9.1</font>, Hero calls $4.55.

Turn: ($22.95) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $15</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $37.95
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:17 PM
Vitaliy Vitaliy is offline
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First - I'm struggling with AK too. But here is what I think about this hand: he limped from UTG, flop is 55K is one of the best flops I can imagine for AK. I'd be aggressive on the flop and respond to his reraise on the flop with a push. KQ and KJ are likely holdings...
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:22 PM
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You already figured this one out: It's raise or fold on the flop. With no reads I can make a compelling argument for either. I usually pop it back to about $20 and fold if he comes back over the top.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:31 PM
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You already figured this one out: It's raise or fold on the flop. With no reads I can make a compelling argument for either. I usually pop it back to about $20 and fold if he comes back over the top.

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Hmm, I think re-raising double isn't good. Furthermore, I don't think most villains would shove it all-in on the flop if they had the five. They'd get it in on the turn and at which point it would be incorrect to fold.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:45 PM
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You already figured this one out: It's raise or fold on the flop. With no reads I can make a compelling argument for either. I usually pop it back to about $20 and fold if he comes back over the top.

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Hmm, I think re-raising double isn't good. Furthermore, I don't think most villains would shove it all-in on the flop if they had the five. They'd get it in on the turn and at which point it would be incorrect to fold.

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If he's limping UTG with a 5 and then calling raises I like my chances of getting my money back with interest [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

That's why I don't mind staying aggressive. I think you can play this hand just like you would play AA and you aren't folding AA to a raise here.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:13 PM
Vitaliy Vitaliy is offline
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Reverse roles. Imagine how would you play this hand from the other side. You attempted to limp with KT-KQ suited. Somebody raised, you decided to call (for whatever reasons). Now flop comes 55K. Do you think check-raise is possible at these limits? After checking would you raise with these hands when somebody bets into you? Pot size bet might be lower pair - JJ/TT or simply CB and min-raise might give you some information about your opponent's hand.

My question is - if you don't try to win this flop with AK, what kind of flop do you need to be aggressive in shorthanded game?
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:58 PM
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Vitality,

I'm not re-raising to disguise my hand here. I'm not folding it, I'm not under the impression I'm behind. Unfortunately, my post does not illustrate this, I'm not folding, not sure I wrote what i wrote.

Ooops.
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:19 PM
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I think this line is alright. If the turn was a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], an A, or a low brick, I'd be more inclined to continue with the hand. If villain is getting cute with a worse pair of kings, his most likely kicker just paired.
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:21 PM
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Tough hand. But I think you played it right.
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:03 PM
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Do you think it was played right on the flop? Hero pot bet the flop - could be interpreted as CB. Then showed signs of weaknes to a raise. Why not reraise on the flop? Are you afraid of 5 or KK here? May be I am missing something though.
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